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April 29, 2010 - 4:54pmPermalink
The American Legion should schedule an event in Arizona and go on record in support of Arizona's effort to enforce the U.S. Government's immigration laws.
April 29, 2010 - 6:04pmPermalink
April 29, 2010 - 4:55pmPermalink
It is disgraceful that our polititians have allowed illegal immigration to continue just so they can acquire
votes for their own benefit!
We need term limits so hopefully they would do what is best for our country.
April 29, 2010 - 5:02pmPermalink
If the Federal Government will not enforce the law, which IS their job, then the states must act accordingly to protect their citizens.
April 29, 2010 - 5:31pmPermalink
I have absolutely no confidence in our Federal government to write legislation that will not be totally self serving, i.e., vote getting. The self serving elected have shown no interest to do anything to solve the illegal immigration situation until they are pushed to the wall. Arizona is doing some pushing.
I applaude them. More states need to come in to line on this to prod the fed's into action we the people are begging for. Protect our borders! Enforce laws already on the books! Amnesty the 2nd time? I hope not.
I do not believe any person who is in this country illegally should be deported promptly. However, the Arizona law is not the way to go about it. There are thousands of Hispanic people in this country who are native born Americans or who are here legally. They have the same rights as I and the rest of us do. They should not have to prove their citizenship under any circumstances that the rest of us would not be required to do so.
April 29, 2010 - 6:01pmPermalink
Do you not know that you are required to carry ID on your person. This is the same for Visas and Green Cards. You are required by law to carry some form of Identification. What part of that do you find wrong? If you are stopped by an officer the first thing they ask for is, if your are driving, a drivers license. If you are stopped out of a vehicle they ask for ID. This crap of people thinking their rights are being invaded because Arizona wants the Illegals out is stupid. If you are so worried about these people then MOVE TO MEXICO
April 29, 2010 - 6:40pmPermalink
This covers South and North America, just ask anyone living in South America, they'll tell you they are Americans, and they are right, but that doesn't make them a U.S. Citizen.
We're not talking about Legal Immigration where a person comes through the proper facility. We are talking about illegal immigration, where people are just sneaking across the border.
imo, Az is doing the right thing. We are among the few nations that allow this sort of thing to happen.
April 29, 2010 - 6:14pmPermalink
I get asked for my ID everytime I travel to a foreign country. I am Proud to show my USA ID. I am also proud to show my USA ID here in the States if asked for it. The only people afraid to produce an ID are those who are ashamed of thier country or those who are criminals.
April 29, 2010 - 6:15pmPermalink
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April 29, 2010 - 6:18pmPermalink
I've been an American citizen all my 60 years of age. If you are illegal, no matter what color you may be, you don't belong in this country without a legal citizenship. No phoney Social Security Cards! Pay taxes, and respect the flag and the USA! What Arizona has done is a move in the right direction. The other states should do the same! What happen to Homeland Security???
April 29, 2010 - 6:47pmPermalink
Stay out of Az Am Legion. We don't need more racists coming to Az. You are still living in the 1950's. My father, who was a ww11 vet, was denied membership into the Am legion because he was brown. He was not allowed to use his VA loan to buy a home in white neighborhoods. I'm a 100% disabled vietnam vet and brown. Now when I go for a walk I must carry I.D. just in case I'm stopped for being brown.
I'm for protecting our border against drugs and illegal entry. But the new law implies, "show me your papers" if you are brown. Nazi Germany also said" show me your papers" to the jewish people.
April 29, 2010 - 8:05pmPermalink
as a fellow vietnam vet, I find your comments very racist. The VA hospital can help you.
April 29, 2010 - 7:05pmPermalink
I am a U.S. Citizen and a veteran. I have lived in
Central America for the last 55 years, and believe me,
the immigration laws in Mexico and other countries in
Latin America are a lot more strict than the laws in
The United States.
April 29, 2010 - 8:01pmPermalink
Here's how the law will work. Each morning our racist sheriff, Apraio, will post an APB for a Hispanic male, 20 to 40 years, 150 to 225 pounds, short dark hair,wearing sneakers and a t-shirt, wanted for questioning.
Of course, the Maricopa County Storm Troopers, the lemmings that aimlessly, have never worked at the carnival so guessing age, weight, or height won't be their specialty.
however, they will be able to spot Hispanic males.
Just like it was easy to spot black males in the 50's and 60's in mississippi.
OH WAIT!!!! Sheriff Arpaio has been racial profiling for 3 years. His officers go into hispanic neighborhoods and stop brown people and hold them and then release them after they show ID.
In the meantime this law will not do nothing for troubles at the border.
April 29, 2010 - 8:57pmPermalink
Regardless of what you think, it's the right thing to do as they have been breaking the law for years and people like you have been aiding them, so you're just as guilty of breaking the law. Thousands have taken the time to study and become citizens legally, if they could do it so could others.One thing I'd like to see is to have Mexico pay for all the FREE medical care it's citizens have had while being in this country illegally. With ten million five hundred thousand, that would be quite a piece of change, wouldn't it.Your own country doesn't even care about you,fewer they have to be concerned about, if they care at all.
April 29, 2010 - 8:24pmPermalink
I am amazed how many think we should simply abolish our borders and let the massive flow come in until this country is no longer as we know U.S.A. I am sure the people screaming about civil rights are educated, at least enough so they can understand what ILLEGAL actually means. Term limits: there will be many in this November up for re-election - my view is the current office holders (all parties) are and have been a large part of the problem - to vote for any of them is saying, go ahead do as you please like you all have been OR bring in new people, ideas, etc., and yes not all will be good so their term limit would be the next election. GET INVOLVED, STUDY HOW THEY VOTE, AND MOST OF ALL - VOTE.
April 29, 2010 - 8:39pmPermalink
I am white and every time I am stopped by a policeman I am asked for ID should I contact the ACLU
Az is doing what the feds refuse to do
April 29, 2010 - 8:55pmPermalink
You did something wrong that is why they stopped you. They stopped me because I was brown and going for a walk.
Again, I'm for secure a border and we should get the problem fixed.
DMZS- This law does nothing to protect us from drug and human smugglers crossing the borders. It is protecting us from being asaulted from dishwashers, maids , and farm laborers.
April 29, 2010 - 9:13pmPermalink
I live in a small city near the Canadian border and I feel the racism and profiling big time. I am a white male and my family is white. We are constantly hounded by the authorities at the border for Identification... They say "We look like Canadians"... So I show my ID.
What part of ILLEGAL do people not get? If the government does not enforce all the laws, I'm running for office so I can have government officials and law enforcement not enforce slapping idiots like you in the head.
Notice I called police, Law Enforcement. That's what they are supposed to do. ENFORCE the LAW.
April 29, 2010 - 9:25pmPermalink
It's nice to see that someone (the Arizona Legislature and Governor) have the guts to stand up for United States of America citizens particularly since the U.S. Government (the Federal government) has neither the guts nor the inclinations to stand up to ILLEGAL immigrants. The Fed could easily pass legislation that provides HEAVY fines (1/4 million dollars and up) and incarceration (minimum 1 year in prison) for hiring ILLEGAL aliens and denies citizenship to children born of ILLEGAL immigrant born in the USA. Additionally, insuring NO free education, medical care, welfare, medicaid would go along way to curbing ILLEGALS.
Until this happens more states, e.g. Florida, should follow Arizona's lead.
April 29, 2010 - 9:31pmPermalink
I live in a small city near the Canadian border and I feel racism and profiling big time. I am a white and my family is white. We are constantly hounded by the authorities at the border for Identification and proof of citizenship. They say "We look like Canadians". So I show my ID.
What part of ILLEGAL do people not get? If the government does not enforce all the laws, I'm running for office so I can have government officials and law enforcement not enforce slapping idiots like you in the head. Notice I called police, Law Enforcement. That's what they are supposed to do. ENFORCE the LAW. And brother, it is a very real law. I've seen it.
Since none of the "outraged" have posted a clue as what should be done, here is one idea;
Close down the borders with force. Legalize everyone inside the borders (That want to be American)
Sending home those here illegally would be too complicated and costly. Then, re-open the manned entry points to legal immigrants and visitors.
April 29, 2010 - 10:07pmPermalink
Well player if you do not like the law that the majority of the people in Arizona want(legal people that is) then I think you should pack your bags and move. But wait other states are thinking about passing same type of law. The pople of this country are tired of being door mats and as a retired Federal Officer and ex-cop,ex-Navy I am glad people are standing up for there country. Any country in the world will ask for a persons I. D. and in most you had better have one, so America woke up and now your mad I have traveled all over the world and its about time we started checking IDs
April 30, 2010 - 12:18amPermalink
POlice will be stopping anyone who looks Mexican. That is a NAZI LAW. eVERHYONE HAD DO CARRY IDENTY PAPERS IN NAZI GERMANY.
i AM ASHAMED AT THE RESPONSE TO THIS QUESTION. I HOPE THE LEGION WILL HAVE THE COURAGE TO OPPOSE THIS LAW.
SILENCE IS CONSENT AND I CAN NOT CONSENT DTHE THE RACISM THAT MOTIVATES THIS LAW. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE FOUJGHT FOR IN WWI
April 30, 2010 - 7:22amPermalink
As a Legion member, Titus, I find your comment as typical of those who have not been correctly informed or not read the AZ Law or understand that it is an exact wording of the Federal Law. Please, before you make pronouncements and or state the same thing you have written above, to others - who have not read the Law or asked to be informed make sure yourself you know what the Law reads and its origins. Asserting that the AZ Law is a Nazi Law dishonors those who faced the Holocaust as well as makes those of us who have sworn to defend and support the Laws of our great Land. Should you need to know exactly what the Law states and what AZ Law Enforcement can do under the Law, contact the Maricopa County Sheriff's office. At any rate, please do not misrepresent either the intent or the application of the AZ Law.
April 30, 2010 - 1:47amPermalink
First of all, this is Arizona STATE law passed by the STATE legislature and does not affect any other state in the union. I live in Az. and we have an ongoing problem here. We have a congress that does not have the backbone to tackle this issue and that includes republicans as well as democrats.
As for opinions and comments let me be very blunt. If you live in Arizona and do not like this law, that is fine. If you do NOT live in Arizona and do NOT like our laws, tough! Watch our nightly news and see what is going on in Phoenix and around the border and then you can state your opinion.
April 30, 2010 - 4:27amPermalink
God bless you for standing up for the people of color. We fought for all the people of the america but there veterans that feel they only fought for white americans.
Again, thank you titus1928 and god bless you. You are true veteran.
April 30, 2010 - 7:28amPermalink
Regretably, jhsantana, attitudes and responses of many are hard to influence and change once a person believes what they do. But as a Legion Member and one who believes we fought and defended Americans and not just people of color or whites, making statements and or re-enforcing misperceptions helps no one. It only enflames the fires of hate, discontent, and prejudice. As a sworn member of the Legion, I would hope your comments reflect non-members attitudes. If they do not, I would like to know what Post you belong to and ask the National Leaders to make a special visit to determine worthiness to continue operations.
April 30, 2010 - 3:34pmPermalink
Please use your real name if you want answers and the post you belong to.
April 30, 2010 - 9:52amPermalink
My father was an immigrant back in the late twenties. The USA is the land of opportunity and our doors are open who wish to come here legally. We are also a home for those who live under oppression form nations who do not belive in liberty. Our soldiers have died on many foreign shores in the defense of liberty. What we are dealing with is political correctness, a form of ORWELL'S NEW SPEAK IN THE BOOK 1984. This has to stop. If you are not a citizen, or have a GREEN CARD, you do not have CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,in these United States. If you are here on a VISA,you do not have CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS in these United States. If you have none of the above you are here illegally and you should go home. There are some here who want you to stay. It is not because they are your friend it is because they want to use you presence politically. The illegal immigrants coming across the Mexican Border ar mostly Mexicans!!! I have no problem with profiling. We have to protect our nations soverignty.
April 30, 2010 - 11:53amPermalink
This is not a racial or ethnic issue as some have tried to make it out to be. Arizona absolutely had the right to do something in order to protect their citizens from the myriad of illegal immigrant crime they have been experiencing for years. This bill would not have been necessary, if our Federal Government had not failed undertake it's responsibility to secure our national borders against foreign incursions. For many years our prospective and elected representatives have talked about securing our borders, but have done nothing. So, when one of our suffering border states finally says they've had enough and take some action, they've become the unfair target of many of these same "do nothing but talk" representatives! If they can do it better, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PLATE! It's high time our government provided the American People the basic border security they deserve!!!
April 30, 2010 - 11:51amPermalink
Why and HOW did this become a race issue? My grandmother came over here in the 1920's from Poland and did it legally...she was required BY LAW to report her whereabouts at all times. One time she moved from the upper peninsula of Michigan to Indiana -and the FBI was on her doorstep, because 3 mos had gone by and she had not reported her move...and guess what folks. She was white. AND here legally. She had an accent and was required often to show papers. Our leniency has been perceived as weakness and now that someone wishes to ENFORCE existing law...it is labeled racist. Sorry illegal IS illegal. You get no protection from MY constitution. AZ has to build 37 schools to educate this influx of illegals and AZ has to pay for that...they needed to do something. I am a proud legion member, a vietnam veteran and grand-daughter of immigrants -LEGAL immigrants and I AM NOT a racist. Titus don't accuse me of that. BTW did you serve?
April 30, 2010 - 12:29pmPermalink
There are more than just Hispanic Illegals. Here in California the problem is out of control. If the Feds can't take care of the problem, it leaves the States without any option. If the people of Arizona aren't complaining, why should we. I think this is just the start of more states taking control of what is happening. No amnesty, close the boarders.
April 30, 2010 - 1:17pmPermalink
I served 23 years in the military to support and defend the constitution of the United States and its citizens. This is a Nation of laws and the people coming into this country illegally are willing to break our laws from the moment they set foot in this country. I have no problem with legal immigration. I believe we need to get our Congress to do something, other than pat themselves on their backs, pass automatic pay raises for themselves. They need to do some actual work and fix the problems with legal immigration. The law passed by Arizona is almost a duplicate of the Federal Law with the exception that I believe Arizona will actually follow the law unlike the Federal Government.
April 30, 2010 - 1:40pmPermalink
It's a case of STATE rights; since our state militia (national guard) have been inducted by the Federal gov. for our war in Iraq; it's up to the people to defend our borders, and our way of life.
April 30, 2010 - 3:35pmPermalink
Please use your real name if you wish to comunicate with me and the post you belong to.
April 30, 2010 - 3:44pmPermalink
Why and HOW did this become a race issue? My family came over here in the 1960's from Holland and did it legally. My Dad was required to have a job BEFORE immigrating. Both parents had to read, speak, and write English BEFORE immigrating. Our leniency has been perceived as weakness and now that someone wishes to ENFORCE existing law...it is labeled racist. I am a proud US Army Vietnam veteran married to another Vietnam Veteran and we are both American Legion members and immigrants -LEGAL immigrants.
April 30, 2010 - 5:27pmPermalink
This is not a race issue. It is about racial profiling.
April 30, 2010 - 4:41pmPermalink
I have lived in AZ my whole life(59 yrs) and watched it deteriorate with all the freebies we give out to people who are not citizens. My ancestors also came from another country(legally). They went through Ellis Island and became citizens. Any state who thinks we in Arizona don't have the right to say NO and STOP, then by all means, let them take the illegals to their state and let them support them. First they had better plan to learn another language, so they can cater to them and speak to them. Get used to for English, press 1. After they take the illegals to their state and have supported them for awhile, get back with us about how you feel. After you watch your city start looking like a 3rd world country(a very poor one), then get back to us. Bottom line, Arizona can no longer afford to support them or we will be bankrupt!!!!!!!! Check out Mexico's immigration laws before you complain about ours.
April 30, 2010 - 9:50pmPermalink
This is not about racism,it is not about profiling,it is about the law and entering this country legally as most of our ancestors did!It is about speaking our language,working,paying taxes,social security taxes, and being an American.I am fed up with seeing protestors crying that we are denying them their rights while carrying an Mexican flag.Come to America,but do it legally,pay into the system for the benefits you want,same as the rest of us do.If they come into this country illegally,they are criminals,especially if they bring drug and guns.It is about states going bankrupt.Try serving this country in the military,be a hero,not a drain on our economy.Get a job here,get paid above the table,not in cash to avoid paying taxes.Don't send the money home to Mexico,put it into our economy.If you didn't see the news today,you might want to purchase an AK47 of your own to protect yourself against some of these illegals.If they want to fight a war,go to Iraq so some of our guys can come home.
May 1, 2010 - 3:37amPermalink
I am from Arizona and I am as concerned about the illegal immigration and drug routes through my State as everyone else. We must establish security and protection for all Arizona Citizens and we must do it fast. However, we must do it the right way - the State does not have the authority - in accordance with the Constitution - only Congress has that Authority. So, let us work through Congress to get it done - send letters, make calls, gather at public functions and demand that our Congress do something now or vote them out of office in the next election! I am sick and tired of the "What is good for my party" attitude in Washington DC. Let us put people in office who have the "What is good for America" attitude and get things done correctly once and for all!
May 1, 2010 - 7:51pmPermalink
I took that oath 3 times, and never was there an expiration date. Give me back the country I swore to protect and defend.
May 1, 2010 - 8:06pmPermalink
Why is it Americans get 12 years at hard labor, while we give illegal immigrants drivers licenses, health care, food stamps,...?
Come on, people, be real!
I worked overseas for several years. I made sure my visas and work documents were up to date; I played the game, why is it so much to ask that everyone does the same?
May 1, 2010 - 11:37pmPermalink
I like the idea that Arizona is trying to do something, but I see many problems with it that could tear this country apart again. I feel the law should go after those who hire the illegals. If they can't find work, because we won't hire them, then they'll go home. The businesses that hire them should be responsible. There are laws in place for these businesses to check if these people have the proper work visa in this country, and if a business doesn't check them properly then they should be fined or three strikes and put out of business. The constitution is the almighty law for this country, and its citizens of this country and DOES NOT apply to those who are not citizens, which we are allowed to discriminate against them, and Congress should remember that instead of pleasing everyone.
May 1, 2010 - 11:40pmPermalink
From what I've learned about the Constitution.. What the federal government doesn't address, is left up to the individual states to pass the laws concerning those issues, until it goes against our constitutional right.
May 2, 2010 - 10:13amPermalink
Anyone who opposes the actions of government officials to protect Americans from non Americans does not know what this country is all about. I did not take an oath to protect people from another country invading the U.S. Our jails are full of them because they are commiting crimes against our countymen. Arizona did not make it aginst law to be in the U.S. if you are a certain race. They made it against the law to be in Arizona if you are in the U.S. illegally. The illegals are not upset about the law. It is the same as existing federal laws. They are upset because Arizona intends to actually enforce the law and stop their illegal and destructive behavior. I lived most of my life within sight of our Southern border. I finally moved because I got tired of my car disappearing and the illegal gangs in all of the parks.
May 3, 2010 - 7:48pmPermalink
The Constitution gives the Congrss the power to make and regulate federal law; but it also gives the states the power to pass their own laws as they see fit. Illegal Immigration across the borders of Texas, New Mexico, arizona, and California cry for state intervention to do something to aid the federal government in stemming the tide of illegal immigrents. I seriously believe that all states need to join this battloe and (even though I disagree with a lot of what the Demacrates propose) I have to agree the time has come for a national ID. I believe there should be a code for violent offenders, spousal abusers, and habitual drunk drivers.Forigner's that don't want to comply can be deported! I am tired of paying high taxes so people can come into this country illegally and get free housing, free medical care, free education, and free welfare because "it's discriminatory to deny them." And how many of them are agents of enemy governments that would like to destoy us from within?
May 3, 2010 - 10:14pmPermalink
In case anyone hasn't heard, our newest supreme court justice is member of La Raza. If someone doesn't do something soon the country we fought to preserve will no longer exist. What you don't value, you lose.
May 4, 2010 - 4:11pmPermalink
I'm an immegrant, I came here leagal, I served in the Army, I have no problem if anyone askes me for an ID
since I have nothing to hide...