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Do you really think our soldiers fought wars for Christ?? I'll bet the non-Christian servicemen are rolling in their graves that we have labeled their sacrifices and their service for them as strictly a Christian endeavor.

The ACLU is getting way too big for its britches, next they'll be telling us that churches and religious buildings need to take down their religious symbols because they 'offend' someone.
Can I sue the ACLU? They're offending my religious freedom

Why don't you make helping the living your key effort instead of this craziness. Why not insist that Walter Reed be kept open and the best? Why not insist that veterans get the help they deserve to start new businesses? Why not insist on fully funding VA? Some how we lost our way as an organization.

As a current member in the US Army, and currently serving in Iraq. Right now I'm confused at who the real terrorist are. Which attacks on our Nation are more dangerous. Those that kill thousands, or those that affect the rights of millions past, present, and future. These men and women that that have given their lives, and their familes, whatever God they worship they should have the right to have whatever they want on their gravesite. They have given the ulitmate sacrifice for this Great Country of ours. The people of the Country can give a little back to them by keeping their opinions to themselves and start makeing this country what it once was!

It is a shame How we, as a country have slipped so far down the ladder. The ACLU would be better served fighting for meaningful issues, like securing meaningful employment for Disabled Vet's, ensuring proper medical treatment for returning soldiers from the war zones. and most important ensuring our government be honest with the American citizens when sending our boys in Harms way.

Hey Hal, I have a crazy idea, why don't you actualy read the post I left on your blog on huffpo and get over yourself. Not only do we actualy help the living, we address ALL issues that concern veterans. READ THE WORDS my friend. I wonder if your department commander knows about your little tirades you post on our blog? I wonder if he would approve?

Cyberlegion I doubt my department commander approves of my comments but I KNOW a lot of rank and file members do and other veterans. I don't question the good the legion does but I do question their priorities. If we devoted even half the talking to fully funding VA that we do to this issue we all might be better off. I do have a right and obligation to speak out and I will.

I stand by my two articles for Huffington and here they are:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hal-donahue/honor-tradition-courage_b_49565.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hal-donahue/the-legion-owes-nation-ap_b_41794.html

Does this mean that the Legion will also fight for Wiccan symbols and ceremonies? I hope we are honoring David Faris's comment above.

Hal,

In no way shape or form am I trying squelch your voice in this matter, but the bottom line is you are wrong when you assert the Legion is not doing enough for veterans. The premise is flawed and I and others have told you point by point what we are doing refuting your accusations posed in your articles.

As for VA funding show me one orginization that fights on the hill everyday like the Legion does. Last time I checked Congress has the last word when comes to appropriations. If you want to pick a bone with someone call your Senator.

cyberlegion let me phrase this another way. Think how much more the Legion could accomplish if it concentrated the vast majority of its press releases and publicity toward helping living veterans and active military. Defense of war memorials makes sense as long as equally applied and we should be involved. But as a cornerstone up front issue when military healthcare funding and research is being cut, when so many returning vets are suffering from PTSD and have difficulty coping? These should be our cornerstone issues. I talk to both my Senators and Congressman and my postings urge others to do so too. I would think that the Legion should be leading the way.

cyberlegion's comment: :...but the bottom line is you are wrong when you assert the Legion is not doing enough for veterans...". I would not phrase it that way but know I really do not think that the Legion or the people of the US can ever do enough.... I do not ask that all I ask is make them whole.

AS A VET. AND A CHRISTIAN, ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THY RIGHT EYE OFFEND YOU PLUCK IT OUT!

We need another great picture of Marines (Army here myself) raising a cross on Iwo Jima. Just a thought. A picture like that would be worth a million words.
Screw the ACLU and its associate crybabies.

Is the ACLU also attacking the thousands of crosses that mark the final resting place of soldiers in Alrington? Doesn't the Arlington cemetery offer star of David markers as well? And are they not looking into crescent markers for the few of Islamic faith that fight for this country as well?

Shouldn't a group that supports "American Civil Liberties" be defending the right of people to display religious symbols whether they be crosses, stars, crescents, ect?

As usual, you're being lied to and led by the nose by those republicon supporting, biased leaders of yours.

The ACLU filed a lawsuit to" protect the right of veterans and their families to choose religious symbols to engrave on headstones in federal cemeteries" "The government has no business picking and choosing which personal religious beliefs may be expressed. All veterans, regardless of their religion, deserve to have their faith recognized on an equal basis," said ACLU of Washington staff attorney Aaron Caplan.

So it appears that once again the lying, right wing hillbillies have bent the truth in order to keep the hillbillies stirred up, in line, and contributing. LMAO , so explain this one gomers.

http://www.aclu.org/religion/discrim/26970prs20060929.html

Mr. Kennedy, please feel free to explain how the ACLU can be for both having religious symbols at Arlington and against religious symbols at war/Veteran memorials? Seems to me to be a little conflicting in ideology there; don't you think? But then again, I'm just one of those know nothing hillbillies that served my Country, worked hard to raise 2 children at the same time as putting myself through school and working 2 jobs, working within my Post to further Veterans issues and volunteering what little free time I have to helping my fellow Veterans; being elected to the position of Post Commander for the upcoming year, working with others to hold fundraisers for our Veterans homes, etc. Now, please explain to me (I'm dense, ya know); what have you done, lately?

"Does this mean that the Legion will also fight for Wiccan symbols and ceremonies?"

When did the ACLU start filing lawsuits to tear down monuments with Wiccan symbols? It hasn't. It is attacking veterans's memorials that include crosses. Your question is an attempt to distract from the real issue.

To David Kennedy, who has exposed himself as an intolerant bigot with his comments, I present to you the unfathomable idea that the ACLU is full of it and you have bought its propaganda like it was a hot dog on a stick at the state fair. The fact is, both the Mt. Soledad cross and the Mojave cross were erected by people close to those being honored who CHOSE the cross to honor their friends, family members and comrades-in-arms. I guess you'd tear down the Argonne Cross and Canadian Cross of Sacrifice at Arlington. The ACLU is nothing but a double-talking scourge and you are just another victim of its newspeak.

This is the best news I've read so far today. I will be watching to see how quickly it passes throw the House and Senate. It's about time the ACLU is made to understand that there is no separation of Church and State and to stop bludgeoning our Establishment Clause. Bravo to our heros ADF, Liberty Legal Institute and our wonderful American Legion. God Bless.

Wiccan is not the basis of our liberties. Our liberties are all based upon the belief that our Creator has endowed us with certain inalienable rights and that the only legitimate purpose of government is to secure those God-given inalienable rights. Our nation was founded upon the belief that all individuals and nations must publicly acknowledge their dependence upon God for their liberties, lives, security and prosperity. To preserve Wiccan symbols, you need to establish a nation founded upon Wiccan beliefs. Somehow, I doubt it will end up as the most free and prosperous nation the world has ever seen. Wiccans should be applauding efforts to preserve our religious foundations. Without them, we have no freedoms and no inalienable rights. We become the victims of arbitrary rule by arbitrary, constantly changing rules - the very definition of tyranny.

As usual, you're being lied to and led by the nose by those republicon supporting, biased leaders of yours.

The ACLU filed a lawsuit to" protect the right of veterans and their families to choose religious symbols to engrave on headstones in federal cemeteries" "The government has no business picking and choosing which personal religious beliefs may be expressed. All veterans, regardless of their religion, deserve to have their faith recognized on an equal basis," said ACLU of Washington staff attorney Aaron Caplan.

So it appears that once again the lying, right wing hillbillies have bent the truth in order to keep the hillbillies stirred up, in line, and contributing. LMAO , so explain this one gomers.

Is that so. So Wican symbols as opposed to crosses is a bid to secure the freedoms that one can practice one's religious beliefs and that the ACLU isn't going all out to take down the Mt. Soledad and Mohave Dessert Crosses? As I understand it these two monuments are Veterans Memorials. But you didn't mention that the religious symbols are Wican symbols now did you. Please don't perpetuate the ACLU lie. They are a nuisance to all First Amendment Rights.

TO Mike B. You're right, you are a know nothing hillbilly, your statement about raising 2 children,school, etc. proves, it. Think you're special, the only one who ever did anything ?, how about the poor black woman, raising 4 children by herself, going to school and getting pulled over 3 times a week by some racist hillbilly for " Driving While Black", and being villified by the hillbilly drunks at the local AL for being a welfare cheat. Hell, you've got it made gomer, you haven't done anything difficult yet.

That's the problem with you arrogant, know nothing hillbillies you have such disdain for others and are so full of yourselves, I'm surprised you losers and failures don't explode.

Maybe you're a little behind the times there gomer, but you conservatives have become irrelevant, you can rail and whine against all of those liberals and the ACLU,in business since 1932, and the rest of the evil demons that your corrupt and incompetent hillbilly leadership has indoctrinated you against, but remember,you people had 6 1/2 years with a hillbilly president and a hillbilly congress and what the hell did you people accomplish ?

really ?, we haven't seen divisiveness like this since the civil war gomer, we haven't seen such class divisions and disparity between the haves and the have nots since the days of Carnegie and the robber barons, and Hoover and the his republican depression,in addition you people sacrifice America's young people as if they were expendable to further the aims of the insane, power mad, ignorant draft and war evaders in the white house,

Jesus Christ,this is a service organization that supports yellow,gutless draft dodgers and helps them swiftboat decorated veterans ????????

If you people have done so much then why are 30% of homeless people veterans,how about the conditions at VA and Military hospitals,why are military families on food stamps, why are soldiers doing 3 and 4 tours in Iraq, too much of the money going into certain pockets or being contributed to Republican candidates rather than being used for veterans,

looks like you guys are about as incompetent as the master of disaster himself

but then that's what REAL AMERICANS have come to expect from the hillbilly part of the population,

how about those veterans in New Orleans, did you help them or are you partial to hate mongering, racist,bigoted,white veterans

go away, America and honorable, honest, freedom loving,fair minded, unbigoted,compassionate,m Christian, God Fearing,Kind, Loving Americans have heard and seen enough from you losing,failing,hateful, selfish,greedy,racist, bigoted hillbilly screwups to last a lifetime, after 6 1/2 years of abject failure, you people don't even have the decency to shut up and stop interfering in progress, you still use the bush and rove tactics of lies,deceit,insults, and shouting down the opposition, a foolish move considering your rapidly accelerating loss of support.

Let me give you a clue goober ;

If you disagreed with the neocons, you would be on the street, and they would have a bunch of drunken goobers bad mouthing you the next day, the way they did Kerry and Murtha,

you people really screwed the dog on that one, and you don't have the sense to see the damage it did to your reputation,

by the way can you verify your service,awards,etc. ?

I think it's likely that you manufactured them in order to enhance your position and gain wealth, I have no proof, of course, but then that didn't stop bush,cheney,rove, and the guy that bought that ambassadorship,

damn, now explain to me why anyone in his right mind would want to serve in the US Military knowing that their sacrifices and contributions could be negated and vilified by rotten hillbillies who's only interest is their wealth and power and the wealth and power of their wealthy financiers,

there are a lot of us real American veterans out there telling young people exactly that, no need to sacrifice anymore than the bush,cheney,rove, limbaugh liars, let them be an example to all American young people.

I work 3 jobs festus, the income from 2 goes to the church,the poor, the homeless shelters, and starving children overseas among others, so stick your arrogance up your nose, maybe you could sell your NASCAR jacket and donate the profits, why you hillbillies embarass yourselves with that crap is beyond me, must be a hillbilly thing, got a confederate flag on it ?

I'm going to say this one more time David, "Please try to comment without the insults." Please read the submission policy and follow the guidelines or you will be banned from further comments.

Are you just applying the rules to me or do you plan to apply them to the godzilla person and the others too ??

do you just apply them to liberals ??

do conservatives and Wasps get preferential treatment ?

I find the following insulting, none of which you have posted a warning for?

(Admin - Yes I apply the same rules to everyone. Your egregious over use has caused me to single you out. )

David R, your racist (against white conservatives) agenda is so transparent that it's absolutely laughable. All of your comments calling people names like "ignorant hillbillies", "gomers" and etc. are the equivilant of using the "n" word against a black person. Get a clue, and go see someone about your hate issues.

to David M,

Really ???, maybe you should peruse the hateful postings of those white conservatives, the ones that don't get warnings, they far outnumber my postings, they were deleted in My last post, but it doesn't take long to find 20 or 30,and more.

Maybe Americans are fed up with the Conservative attack and slander tactics, and we're now using the same strategy.

So, did you E-Mail Rove and tell him the same thing when they attacked and slandered Kerry ?, or Murtha, or Liberals

I read most of these posts, until I started reading someone posting about the Wiccan "religion". As a new Legion member, Active Duty member, and son of a Pastor I ask you this.

Can anyone who actually served in any sort of "sticky" situation really say that they knew of anyone who didn't find "the real" God in their time of need? Really think about this question, I know that I can not think of a soul who didn't find GOD!!
"In God We Trust" is what this Nation was founded on and "For God and Country" is what this organization is about! Come on people, stop being politically correct and grow a spine!

It appears to me, that The American Legion does not actually represent or respect all veterans. By drawing a judeo-christian line in the sand, with this measure, and others, including support of the 1950's modification to the pledge of allegiance, etc. they are asserting judeo-christianity AHEAD of wartime military service as it's primary political litmus test. My service spanned two of the qualifying periods, 9 years, and as with many of my brothers and sisters in arms, that did not and DO NOT subscribe to the 'traditional religious heritage' apparently accounts for nothing and we can not count on the American Legion to respect our freedoms of religion, speech... So my opinion doesn't matter? My service to the country doesn't matter? I signed up, and swore an oath to protect the 'constitution' not the baby jesus.... I did my bit, and did it well.. The American Legion will not get my support, nor can it claim that it represents all veterans until it can strip itself of archaic allegiance to mythology and tend to the needs and concerns of ALL veterans, regardless of their religious/spiritual beliefs.

Wow. I see a lot of hate comments here. I'm not going to lower myself to address them. I'll just point out that the American Legion is only as good or bad as the people who serve it. The Legion I've been involved in has always stood up for the Veterans. Period!!! Not in all the ways everyone wants but in the ways they can. If you don't like something, get involved and change it. IN GOD WE TRUST!! (Notice I didn't say WHICH God) Your choice!

"IN GOD WE TRUST!! (Notice I didn't say WHICH God) Your choice!"

Why must we veterans choose a god? What about the thousands that do not acknowledge one exists? It says right on the charter that allegience to god, some god (wink, wink)is their overt, number one priority.. And please; don't confuse 'disagreement' with 'hate' that diminishes the value of the word for those things we really do hate...
If they want to be a 'veterans' group.. why the religious litmus test at all? Why get involved in that quagmire?

After the Illegal Immigration fiasco in Kansas City (LaRaza vs. Frances Semler), I have decided to join the Minutemen. They have a naational meeting in Kansas City this next weekend. If you consider yourself a patriout, I ask you to check their web site and read about where they stand. The American Legion position reads like it was written Ed Hayes, the lead guy for the Minutemen in Kansas.

Regads to all.

Obviously some people like to talk through there …. and don’t do their homework.
The American Legion helps in ways that you can’t even imagine.
They support our troops all over the world.
They support our troops Families.
They support our wounded veterans in hospitals and at home.
They support our nations children.
And they speak for those that can no longer speak for themselves.
There is so much that the American Legion and many other fine veterans’ organizations do, that I can’t possibly say enough about what they have accomplished and continue to accomplish every day.
For the ACLU to attack religious monuments and memorials is a waste of taxpayer funds that could do so much good.
The ACLU has out lived it’s usefulness as far as I’m concerned and should go crawl into a hole some place like the snakes they are.
The majority of Americans are Christians and this country was founded under Christian beliefs and principals.
If someone dose not like a cross at a war memorial then don’t have pay any attention to it.
Don’t step on the majority of Americans rights and beliefs because a small group of Americans have religious issues. That is so wrong in so many ways.