Agree! I am also concerned that we are by passing the entire discussion on the President's limitation of the use of force under the war powers act. Or do we choose to ignore our laws? I agree ISIS needs to be destroyed, but it will take longer than 30 more days and will require violating at least the air space of other countries....Congress should get of their duffs and draft an authorization to be renewed if needed a year into the next administration!
Submitted by Old Tanker (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 3:39pm
it was air power that finished japan, yes i know nuclear, but if you dont want a 40 year occupation or need to occupy territory with today's capability it (non nuclear)can take out most anything as long as you know where it is so why not use it. for that matter use it 24/7 in all its different forms until there is nothing left alive in Isis areas
Submitted by my name (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 6:08pm
We are dealing with a conflict that is over a thousand years old. What is very disappointing to me is the willingness of over 100 American citizens (both men and women) to give up their freedoms to fight for these animals against our country. It is very easy for these people to melt back into the population. Just ask the Israelis as they were fighting Hamas in Gaza as rockets were being launched into Israel from UN sponsored schools. As our troops are being killed by so called friendlies we trained in Afghanistan so the same will happen again in Syria and Iraq. My suggestion is that we continue to become energy independent and use our aircraft to bomb the old fields under ISIL control so they lose a source of funding.(Who is buying this oil?) Let the Shia and Sunnis fight it out. The Iranians and Saudis should spend their blood and treasure. Keep our boys here to defend the homeland.
Submitted by prlein (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 8:21pm
I agree with your idea 100%. We have more oil and gas in this country that we don't have to depend on other countries. Let Arabia, Turkey and the other countries fight off ISIL. By using the air strikes to shut down their source of income will put this problem to rest a lot sooner.
Submitted by polish prince (not verified) : Sep 14, 2014 9:52am
Oh yes it can. Just one little Bomb and we won't have to worry about reoccupying that country again for a Million Years. It's going to happen sooner or later. God is in Control and Islam Looses, end of Story. If I were the Jews, I'd move as far away from Israel as I could. Millions of America's Problems solved in an instant. Then America needs to clean House with with these Beggars and Thieves that are stinking up the place.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:14pm
WWII, airpower in its infancy, no comparison. Vietnam, air power restricted by no desire to win and rules of engagement. Take out the chocks, use sophisticated electronics to gather dependable intel, and remove the head from the snake everywhere you find it. Muslims hate all infidels, all westerners are infidels, chapter nine orders all muslims to kill or convert all persons who refuse to face Mecca and bang their head on the ground at least 3 times a day. Sending our young men and women into that environment is a fools game. End it from the sky or leave it alone.
Submitted by nonstop72 (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:59pm
Air power defeated Japan in less than four days. Proven in WWII. ISIL is our equivalent of Hitler, our politicians lack the resolve to get the job done. MOABs can clean house but they won't be used...again, lack of resolve...our so called leaders are scared, not of losing a battle, they're scared of losing votes. They are so scared of losing votes they are making this country a joke.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) : Sep 12, 2014 10:37pm
If we truly want to stop these terrorist attacks & massive bloodshed, we must stop "playing nice" and trying to reason with countries whose greater population wants to see us all dead. After all, we are just infidels -- less than animals! How stupid is it to continue "training" forces to defend themselves and their own country, when they then defect to the terrorists, and in turn kill those of us who trained them!
Seriously?
We have the weaponry, lets use it! Why wait any longer when the whole world is watching to see what, if anything, we will do, both for ourselves and our allies. These terrorists only respond to a greater force than they have. There WILL be civilian casualties, there already have been, and not at our hands. If not stopped NOW, it WILL be here on our soil much sooner than you may think.
Remember, it only took one bomb, and one follow-up reminder, to end WWII. Does anyone really want to continue waiting till that is the ONLY remaining choice we have to end this one??!!
Submitted by Military Vet (not verified) : Sep 14, 2014 1:35am
yes using all the bad boys in prison and send them over there with litter training and the speaker of the house Mr Ryan Mr Cruz maybe it will be example for the rest of the politician that getting these country to -----------
Submitted by miguel r (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 3:07pm
It's not like ISIL or ISIS is a standing army, like the Germans in WWII. They are in the shadows, hiding in plain sight and mixed in with the general population, like the VC and al-Qaeda, using them innocents shields. This is evil and wicked guerilla warfare. You have to seek them out, then take them out. No "surgical" airstrike can do that, and would likely result in collateral damage and deaths of innocent civilians, which would give the US and our allies, in this effort, a black eye and would infuriate the Arab and Muslim communities more than they already are. This will require human intel and boots on the ground to root them out and destroy them with extreme prejudice, incurring minimal collateral loss of life.
Submitted by Anonymous in VA (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 3:19pm
Agree....boots on the ground will be required. "Surgical" airstrikes require boots on the ground. Sure you can put a laser on a target from another plan, drone, helicopter or "COLT" team, but only the team on the ground gives you the real human intel factor to know if your surgery was done right. Either we let the Arabs and Muslims fight it out till there is a clear winner & then deal with the winner....or we protect Big Oil up front by using overwhelming force taking the fight to ISIS where ever they are (since the mission is force oriented). A ground force given this mission should include arab muslim units but don't count on it. They would prefer to have us do the dirty work anyway since they don't like killing Arab/Muslim brothers whomever they are.
Submitted by Old Tanker (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 3:52pm
Excellent comment, and agree totally! Air strikes alone will not do the job and may actually create an expansion of the problem. ISIS needs to be wiped off the face of the earth!
Submitted by boatso4 (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 6:15pm
If those innocent people would speak out against the Evil that exists in that part of the world, I'd be willing to try to save them, but they remain quiet. Where are those Moderate Moslems and why haven't they spoken about the Evil that is force on them? If they fear ISIL/ISIS more than Americans, let them be turned into Dust like the Terrorists. We can't sleep nights wondering if they are Moderates or the Real Enemy. NO MORE RULES of ENGAGEMENT !!!!! What Traitor in our Government or our Military came up with that BS. Tell Karsi to get a life. Extortion has to stop.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:24pm
Oh...infuriate the Muslim communities...They should be infuriated at the acts of ISIL, who stand by Muslim doctrine. One of the main problems is this "infuriating the Muslim communities". They don't seem to care when Americans get blown up. They don't seem infuriated when Americans get their heads chopped off.
Take your worries about upsetting the Muslim communities and piss off. They don't care about upsetting you, they take pride in it. Bomb them all (not all Muslims, the terrorists and their families) otherwise they'll keep terrorizing the world
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) : Sep 12, 2014 10:47pm
Increased security will defineitley come, in the way of near total loss of freedom, including eradication of the 1st and second amendments, perhaps the scrapping of the Constitution entirely.
Submitted by kernel (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 5:10pm
If the Moslems can run through our Air Ports Like the Wind why do old men and women have to be strip searched. Who's Country is this ? Ask the Moslem in the White House and the Oval Office. Why are his personal body guards all Members of the Moslem Brotherhood ? He can't trust any Americans to protect him, that's why. Have you ever seen your President Wave the American Flag ??????
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:31pm
The President is right. Let the airstrikes continue, provide military advisors only, NO CCOMBAT TROOPs, to those forces fighting against ISIS. Our massive airpower along with the help of allies, Iraq military, Kurds, Syrian fighting ISIS, military supplies, arms, and humanitarian assistance, should be our only involvement until it proves successful or failure. I believe that we will be successful with the strategy the President outlined.
Submitted by Samuel Marquez (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 3:59pm
Get real, Mr. Marquez. The President's strategy is based upon hope that: (1) There will be sufficient ground troops who are sufficiently trained and motivated to fight to the death; (2) That the countries from which the ground troops come are committed to achieving the mission and will continue the commitment to the successful elimination of the radical ISIL. Keep in mind that our military leaders will exercise less than complete control on the factors needed to ensure that the ground troops are ready, willing, and able to do the dirty and dangerous job of rooting out the enemy in the urban areas. Does any knowledgeable U.S. military expert expect that this arrangement is likely to succeed...name one. Winning will be complicated, bloody, costly, and time-consuming. It's success absolutely depends upon all phases of the effort being on the same page with the precision and effort that will likely for a unified force.
Submitted by Robert Hase (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 5:53pm
Samuel: We have No Allies and fewer friends in other countries as time goes by. We can't train our so called Allies because THEY become our Enemies tomorrow. Look at how many of our sons and daughter, who have been, shot in the Back by the trained Afghans. We can't trust the Enemy, especially the one in our White House. Keep your eye on Turkey and Iran. Russia is just beating the War Drums. Everything Obama has done is a Cluster F--k. Not one word of Truth from Him in 6 years.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:40pm
Silly, who do you think is doing the training, COMBAT TRAINED TROOPS. It's already increased 4x what we started with (at least that's what numbers are given out via the MSM). do you think military advisors aren't COMBAT TROOPS, if not where did they learn to be advisors - Chitown? We started in Vietnam with military advisors, where did that get us?
Submitted by scar98 (not verified) : Sep 12, 2014 11:20am
The flaw in your idea is the "help of allies". Iraqis run at the first gunshot, our aid to Syria is to rebels with known ties to AL-qeada (an enemy of our state). It's also been shown that our arms have landed in the hands of those we are now going to fight (thank you Saudi Arabia).
The president didn't actually outline a strategy.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) : Sep 12, 2014 10:59pm
Absolutely not, I object to any involvement without removal of the restrictive rules of engagement. When a chopper pilot observes a vehicle with a machine gun mounted in the back and/or filled with jihadis they should not have to wait for 3 or 4 layers of bureaucrats to decide if they should engage. As it stands now, by the time the decision is made the bad guys have scattered like roaches. Do not go in unless we are allowed to totally defeat I.S., the Islamic State. I also have a problem with the use of ISIL. This is a poke in the eye of our friend and only ally in the region Israel. When pResident Sport, AKA Bath house Dingle Barry uses the term Levant, it is in reference to the eastern Mediterranean region from Egypt to southern Turkey which fails to recognize Israel as a state.
Submitted by BDB (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 4:07pm
Keep the Politicians in the Dark until after it is all over. If they can't do their jobs in Congress how do you expect them to win a War. By the way, a Moslem is a Moslem, no mater what part of the World they Occupy. Even the one in our White House. Don't trust the SOB any further than you can throw him. Watch out for those Liberal Democrats and the Rhino's also. I'd rather pay a person $15 an hour to cook me a Burger than pay more for a Congressman or woman who are on vacation more than Obama is. They need to punch a Time Clock.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:47pm
Why doesn't he call them Muslims? Maybe because he is a Muslim? They are out kill Americans no ifs or buts about it. Use every weapon in your arsnal and get it over with just like WW II. Are you aware Obama has Appointed several Muslims to govt positions.
Submitted by Oldtimer1925 (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 5:33pm
Amen brother!! But has he ever told the truth or admitted any wrong doing?
Perhaps Madam Hillary would tell the truth!! HA! What difference does it make? Ask the Bengazi survivors, or the families still awaiting answers as to why their loved ones were massacred while the liars in Washington stood idly by.
Submitted by dryheat (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 5:59pm
Oldtimer1925: Look it up. They like to be called Muslim's. They HATE to be Called Moslem's. You will call them worse if you get to know what they have planned for us. Glad U R awake. Even I would follow Obama into Baghdad but only if he was in front of me and in sight. Us Old Nam Vets have some fight left in us and what better way to leave this World Happy.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 10:54pm
I can't believe we're even talking about another round in Iraq when we are failing the wounded coming home now - talking to you VA...the Legion SHOULD NOT be gung ho jumping on board with this idiotic so called "strategy" that will do nothing but grind the rest of the life out of our army. The legion should be calling for the congress to slam the brakes on this adventure.
Submitted by Chandler (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 6:31pm
What's the point of telling everyone your "strategy" to attack an enemy? Do exactly like we did to Japan, Nuke a few key cities in the Middle East and everyone will get the message not to mess with us. We bite and we bite hard. Just like a mean dog. A lot of countries hate us now so what's a few more. They will get the message too! Don't talk about civilian casualties and deaths. How many died in Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, New York, Washington, DC and Shenksville? Civilians are a casualty of war. They want war? We'll bring it to them. After the first nuke falls they will be wondering where the next one is going. This is the only way to end the terrorists once and for all.
Submitted by Viet Nam vet (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 7:46pm
Viet Nam vet: Right on. Why wast a couple. Just one Big One and all of America's Problems will be solved. But we will all be stuck with these Liberal Democrats and Rhino's in Congress to deal with. Wars are meant to be Won, not Lost. Too many Traitors in our Government to Trust a Single One. Especially the Moslem in the Oval Office. Watch him squirm out of this in some way. Keep Obama and the Politicians completely out of this War Fighting after the War on ISIS is declared. I wonder if Obama has left any real fighting men in our Military? Oh ! Well God is watching this Idiot screw up the works. Start the war and send Obama on an extended Golf Tour.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 11:04pm
Where is the correct answer? We don't need air strikes. We don't need ground forces. STOP meddling in the Middle East. STOP providing aid to ANY side. STOP taking sides. STOP trying to "fix" things and creating new messes.
If ISIS/ISIL/Muslim Brotherhood/al Qaeda do ANYTHING domestically, deal with it domestically.
Our government tried to depose Assad (why?) and in doing so provided arms to the rebels, some of which were ISIS. This blows up in our face and now we bomb ISIS in Syria, thereby helping Assad who we are trying to depose. ISIS will fight back against US airstrikes with US equipment given to them to fight Assad. Air strikes won't work and troops will be sent. For the next ten years we will be fighting Assad and ISIS, then implementing a new government composed of other rebels who will be worse than either Assad or ISIS. Another quagmire.
Our government has caused much damage. Rather than create more damage trying to fix the previous damage, the best strategy is to take our losses and pull out. When you find yourself in a very deep hole, the best strategy is to STOP DIGGING!
Submitted by S.Az.Vet (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 8:04pm
S.Az.Vet: You need to realize that Obama has brought Millions of these animals into your Country and you need to help us get them out of here. Remember those Pilots who bring our Dead back home? Well, it seems that Obama has extorted them to the extent of loosing their Military Careers unless they bring 30,000 Syrian Moslems back to the US of A. All of this at the same time he was sneaking Children across the boarder. He and his friends have been Busy Trucking these Syrians all over the country. Thousands of them were sent to Islamberg, Hancock, N. Y. How many went to your State. All behind your back and under the table.
Submitted by Steven G. (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 11:13pm
Don't disagree. A HUGE problem has been created. All I'm saying is that we need to concentrate on dealing with the create3d mess domestically, including and especially border security and returning/deporting illegals. This is no small task. But we also have to STOP CREATING NEW PROBLEMS and exacerbating old ones by meddling in the affairs of other countries.
Submitted by S.Az.Vet (not verified) : Sep 12, 2014 11:42am
We have defeated Iraq on two occasions. When George H. W. pulled out before finishing the job. Then again after 9/11, 2001 then Obama pulled our troops out and left no security forces behind. Now we have to go back. This is madness.
This President has no clue as to what to do. He went on an apology tour after he was first elected and blamed the U.S.A. for the worlds ills. How did this work out? Every time he makes a move he tells our enemies what we are going to do. If this guy had been President during WW11 we certainly would have been defeated.
Just wait until this guy is out of office and hope and pray we get a President who can lead the U.S.A. back to it's rightful place.
Submitted by Checker (not verified) : Sep 11, 2014 11:14pm
Right on Checker! We kicked Saddam in '91 only to see our government allow Saddam to still be a dictator in Iraq.In 2001 George W. went in to do what his father, George H.W. wouldn't finish or the politicians pressured him to stop the war. We captured Saddam and he was executed by his own people!The timing was "ripe" to straighten out Iraq and Afghanistan! Once again, Congress and POTUS Barrack Hussein Obama told the world when and where we would leave Iraq and Afghanistan! Nice going "A-holes". This time POTUS wants to put on a show of force in Iraq and Syria! As a military veteran, you don't give away your hand in battle, you attack, attack, and attack some more till you have turned this unforsaken piece of real estate into a "Giant Magnifying Glass". We still have the best equipped men and women in the military, let the Generals, Admirals do the job that they were trained to perform. Furthermore, keep the Left Wing Zealots and Right Wing Zealots out of the decision making process during war! When a decision is made to go to war you go into battle to "Win" the war, not allowing the waring parties to come to a "Cease Fire" unless all of our objectives have been fulfilled!
Why did that dumb ass in Washington lay out a "strategy" like a fighter telegraphing his punches. maybe he should call thm up and say " hey get in your holes we're coming to get you." STUPID move.
We must "END" ISIL and end it now, airstrikes are not working. These other weak country must standup and put on their big boy pants, and defend their statehood. How many children and their family must die? The bible states, if I recall the might ARMYs will stand and defeat the evil. Why are we afraid to? Do unto others as others do unto you. Do to ISIL, what they’re doing to incent people, and you will see these “THUG” run like the low life they are. It’s time for all worlds’ leaders with their ARMYS to gather together and end these MUNDERING thugs. STOP the (BS) and let’s get the job done.
WASHINGTON please wake up
USGRUNT
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Air power can not defeat
Air power can not defeat enemy on it's owwm. Amply proven in WWII and Vietnam.
Agree! I am also concerned
Agree! I am also concerned that we are by passing the entire discussion on the President's limitation of the use of force under the war powers act. Or do we choose to ignore our laws? I agree ISIS needs to be destroyed, but it will take longer than 30 more days and will require violating at least the air space of other countries....Congress should get of their duffs and draft an authorization to be renewed if needed a year into the next administration!
it was air power that
it was air power that finished japan, yes i know nuclear, but if you dont want a 40 year occupation or need to occupy territory with today's capability it (non nuclear)can take out most anything as long as you know where it is so why not use it. for that matter use it 24/7 in all its different forms until there is nothing left alive in Isis areas
R U Serias ?
R U Serias ?
It is ISIS; NOT ISIL. Israel
It is ISIS; NOT ISIL. Israel is a recognized State and we should not disrespect our allies in such a way
We are dealing with a
We are dealing with a conflict that is over a thousand years old. What is very disappointing to me is the willingness of over 100 American citizens (both men and women) to give up their freedoms to fight for these animals against our country. It is very easy for these people to melt back into the population. Just ask the Israelis as they were fighting Hamas in Gaza as rockets were being launched into Israel from UN sponsored schools. As our troops are being killed by so called friendlies we trained in Afghanistan so the same will happen again in Syria and Iraq. My suggestion is that we continue to become energy independent and use our aircraft to bomb the old fields under ISIL control so they lose a source of funding.(Who is buying this oil?) Let the Shia and Sunnis fight it out. The Iranians and Saudis should spend their blood and treasure. Keep our boys here to defend the homeland.
I agree with your idea 100%.
I agree with your idea 100%. We have more oil and gas in this country that we don't have to depend on other countries. Let Arabia, Turkey and the other countries fight off ISIL. By using the air strikes to shut down their source of income will put this problem to rest a lot sooner.
Oh yes it can. Just one
Oh yes it can. Just one little Bomb and we won't have to worry about reoccupying that country again for a Million Years. It's going to happen sooner or later. God is in Control and Islam Looses, end of Story. If I were the Jews, I'd move as far away from Israel as I could. Millions of America's Problems solved in an instant. Then America needs to clean House with with these Beggars and Thieves that are stinking up the place.
WWII, airpower in its infancy
WWII, airpower in its infancy, no comparison. Vietnam, air power restricted by no desire to win and rules of engagement. Take out the chocks, use sophisticated electronics to gather dependable intel, and remove the head from the snake everywhere you find it. Muslims hate all infidels, all westerners are infidels, chapter nine orders all muslims to kill or convert all persons who refuse to face Mecca and bang their head on the ground at least 3 times a day. Sending our young men and women into that environment is a fools game. End it from the sky or leave it alone.
Air power defeated Japan in
Air power defeated Japan in less than four days. Proven in WWII. ISIL is our equivalent of Hitler, our politicians lack the resolve to get the job done. MOABs can clean house but they won't be used...again, lack of resolve...our so called leaders are scared, not of losing a battle, they're scared of losing votes. They are so scared of losing votes they are making this country a joke.
If we truly want to stop
If we truly want to stop these terrorist attacks & massive bloodshed, we must stop "playing nice" and trying to reason with countries whose greater population wants to see us all dead. After all, we are just infidels -- less than animals! How stupid is it to continue "training" forces to defend themselves and their own country, when they then defect to the terrorists, and in turn kill those of us who trained them!
Seriously?
We have the weaponry, lets use it! Why wait any longer when the whole world is watching to see what, if anything, we will do, both for ourselves and our allies. These terrorists only respond to a greater force than they have. There WILL be civilian casualties, there already have been, and not at our hands. If not stopped NOW, it WILL be here on our soil much sooner than you may think.
Remember, it only took one bomb, and one follow-up reminder, to end WWII. Does anyone really want to continue waiting till that is the ONLY remaining choice we have to end this one??!!
We don't need to use a Nuke,
We don't need to use a Nuke, We need to show we can and WILL !!!
They already know we can; Do they believe we would ?
Barack Obama is your answer!
yes using all the bad boys in
yes using all the bad boys in prison and send them over there with litter training and the speaker of the house Mr Ryan Mr Cruz maybe it will be example for the rest of the politician that getting these country to -----------
It's not like ISIL or ISIS is
It's not like ISIL or ISIS is a standing army, like the Germans in WWII. They are in the shadows, hiding in plain sight and mixed in with the general population, like the VC and al-Qaeda, using them innocents shields. This is evil and wicked guerilla warfare. You have to seek them out, then take them out. No "surgical" airstrike can do that, and would likely result in collateral damage and deaths of innocent civilians, which would give the US and our allies, in this effort, a black eye and would infuriate the Arab and Muslim communities more than they already are. This will require human intel and boots on the ground to root them out and destroy them with extreme prejudice, incurring minimal collateral loss of life.
Agree....boots on the ground
Agree....boots on the ground will be required. "Surgical" airstrikes require boots on the ground. Sure you can put a laser on a target from another plan, drone, helicopter or "COLT" team, but only the team on the ground gives you the real human intel factor to know if your surgery was done right. Either we let the Arabs and Muslims fight it out till there is a clear winner & then deal with the winner....or we protect Big Oil up front by using overwhelming force taking the fight to ISIS where ever they are (since the mission is force oriented). A ground force given this mission should include arab muslim units but don't count on it. They would prefer to have us do the dirty work anyway since they don't like killing Arab/Muslim brothers whomever they are.
Excellent comment, and agree
Excellent comment, and agree totally! Air strikes alone will not do the job and may actually create an expansion of the problem. ISIS needs to be wiped off the face of the earth!
If those innocent people
If those innocent people would speak out against the Evil that exists in that part of the world, I'd be willing to try to save them, but they remain quiet. Where are those Moderate Moslems and why haven't they spoken about the Evil that is force on them? If they fear ISIL/ISIS more than Americans, let them be turned into Dust like the Terrorists. We can't sleep nights wondering if they are Moderates or the Real Enemy. NO MORE RULES of ENGAGEMENT !!!!! What Traitor in our Government or our Military came up with that BS. Tell Karsi to get a life. Extortion has to stop.
Oh...infuriate the Muslim
Oh...infuriate the Muslim communities...They should be infuriated at the acts of ISIL, who stand by Muslim doctrine. One of the main problems is this "infuriating the Muslim communities". They don't seem to care when Americans get blown up. They don't seem infuriated when Americans get their heads chopped off.
Take your worries about upsetting the Muslim communities and piss off. They don't care about upsetting you, they take pride in it. Bomb them all (not all Muslims, the terrorists and their families) otherwise they'll keep terrorizing the world
There is no such thing as an
There is no such thing as an INNOCENT civilian.
If U live in a country and don't try to change it: It's your fault, not mine !
I found it interesting that
I found it interesting that our "strategy" to destroy ISIS did not include any increased security measures at home.
Increased security will
Increased security will defineitley come, in the way of near total loss of freedom, including eradication of the 1st and second amendments, perhaps the scrapping of the Constitution entirely.
If the Moslems can run
If the Moslems can run through our Air Ports Like the Wind why do old men and women have to be strip searched. Who's Country is this ? Ask the Moslem in the White House and the Oval Office. Why are his personal body guards all Members of the Moslem Brotherhood ? He can't trust any Americans to protect him, that's why. Have you ever seen your President Wave the American Flag ??????
Look at the "raised security"
Look at the "raised security" these days. Do you feel more secure?
We are no more secure than we were 20 years ago and how many billions were spent for this "security".
The President is right. Let
The President is right. Let the airstrikes continue, provide military advisors only, NO CCOMBAT TROOPs, to those forces fighting against ISIS. Our massive airpower along with the help of allies, Iraq military, Kurds, Syrian fighting ISIS, military supplies, arms, and humanitarian assistance, should be our only involvement until it proves successful or failure. I believe that we will be successful with the strategy the President outlined.
Get real, Mr. Marquez. The
Get real, Mr. Marquez. The President's strategy is based upon hope that: (1) There will be sufficient ground troops who are sufficiently trained and motivated to fight to the death; (2) That the countries from which the ground troops come are committed to achieving the mission and will continue the commitment to the successful elimination of the radical ISIL. Keep in mind that our military leaders will exercise less than complete control on the factors needed to ensure that the ground troops are ready, willing, and able to do the dirty and dangerous job of rooting out the enemy in the urban areas. Does any knowledgeable U.S. military expert expect that this arrangement is likely to succeed...name one. Winning will be complicated, bloody, costly, and time-consuming. It's success absolutely depends upon all phases of the effort being on the same page with the precision and effort that will likely for a unified force.
Samuel: We have No Allies
Samuel: We have No Allies and fewer friends in other countries as time goes by. We can't train our so called Allies because THEY become our Enemies tomorrow. Look at how many of our sons and daughter, who have been, shot in the Back by the trained Afghans. We can't trust the Enemy, especially the one in our White House. Keep your eye on Turkey and Iran. Russia is just beating the War Drums. Everything Obama has done is a Cluster F--k. Not one word of Truth from Him in 6 years.
Silly, who do you think is
Silly, who do you think is doing the training, COMBAT TRAINED TROOPS. It's already increased 4x what we started with (at least that's what numbers are given out via the MSM). do you think military advisors aren't COMBAT TROOPS, if not where did they learn to be advisors - Chitown? We started in Vietnam with military advisors, where did that get us?
The flaw in your idea is the
The flaw in your idea is the "help of allies". Iraqis run at the first gunshot, our aid to Syria is to rebels with known ties to AL-qeada (an enemy of our state). It's also been shown that our arms have landed in the hands of those we are now going to fight (thank you Saudi Arabia).
The president didn't actually outline a strategy.
Absolutely not, I object to
Absolutely not, I object to any involvement without removal of the restrictive rules of engagement. When a chopper pilot observes a vehicle with a machine gun mounted in the back and/or filled with jihadis they should not have to wait for 3 or 4 layers of bureaucrats to decide if they should engage. As it stands now, by the time the decision is made the bad guys have scattered like roaches. Do not go in unless we are allowed to totally defeat I.S., the Islamic State. I also have a problem with the use of ISIL. This is a poke in the eye of our friend and only ally in the region Israel. When pResident Sport, AKA Bath house Dingle Barry uses the term Levant, it is in reference to the eastern Mediterranean region from Egypt to southern Turkey which fails to recognize Israel as a state.
ISIS is ISIL. Slightly
ISIS is ISIL. Slightly different name, same bunch of killers. The US has no allies in the region.
Keep the Politicians in the
Keep the Politicians in the Dark until after it is all over. If they can't do their jobs in Congress how do you expect them to win a War. By the way, a Moslem is a Moslem, no mater what part of the World they Occupy. Even the one in our White House. Don't trust the SOB any further than you can throw him. Watch out for those Liberal Democrats and the Rhino's also. I'd rather pay a person $15 an hour to cook me a Burger than pay more for a Congressman or woman who are on vacation more than Obama is. They need to punch a Time Clock.
Why doesn't he call them
Why doesn't he call them Muslims? Maybe because he is a Muslim? They are out kill Americans no ifs or buts about it. Use every weapon in your arsnal and get it over with just like WW II. Are you aware Obama has Appointed several Muslims to govt positions.
Right on!
Right on!
Amen brother!! But has he
Amen brother!! But has he ever told the truth or admitted any wrong doing?
Perhaps Madam Hillary would tell the truth!! HA! What difference does it make? Ask the Bengazi survivors, or the families still awaiting answers as to why their loved ones were massacred while the liars in Washington stood idly by.
Oldtimer1925: Look it up.
Oldtimer1925: Look it up. They like to be called Muslim's. They HATE to be Called Moslem's. You will call them worse if you get to know what they have planned for us. Glad U R awake. Even I would follow Obama into Baghdad but only if he was in front of me and in sight. Us Old Nam Vets have some fight left in us and what better way to leave this World Happy.
I can't believe we're even
I can't believe we're even talking about another round in Iraq when we are failing the wounded coming home now - talking to you VA...the Legion SHOULD NOT be gung ho jumping on board with this idiotic so called "strategy" that will do nothing but grind the rest of the life out of our army. The legion should be calling for the congress to slam the brakes on this adventure.
What's the point of telling
What's the point of telling everyone your "strategy" to attack an enemy? Do exactly like we did to Japan, Nuke a few key cities in the Middle East and everyone will get the message not to mess with us. We bite and we bite hard. Just like a mean dog. A lot of countries hate us now so what's a few more. They will get the message too! Don't talk about civilian casualties and deaths. How many died in Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, New York, Washington, DC and Shenksville? Civilians are a casualty of war. They want war? We'll bring it to them. After the first nuke falls they will be wondering where the next one is going. This is the only way to end the terrorists once and for all.
Viet Nam vet: Right on. Why
Viet Nam vet: Right on. Why wast a couple. Just one Big One and all of America's Problems will be solved. But we will all be stuck with these Liberal Democrats and Rhino's in Congress to deal with. Wars are meant to be Won, not Lost. Too many Traitors in our Government to Trust a Single One. Especially the Moslem in the Oval Office. Watch him squirm out of this in some way. Keep Obama and the Politicians completely out of this War Fighting after the War on ISIS is declared. I wonder if Obama has left any real fighting men in our Military? Oh ! Well God is watching this Idiot screw up the works. Start the war and send Obama on an extended Golf Tour.
Where is the correct answer?
Where is the correct answer? We don't need air strikes. We don't need ground forces. STOP meddling in the Middle East. STOP providing aid to ANY side. STOP taking sides. STOP trying to "fix" things and creating new messes.
If ISIS/ISIL/Muslim Brotherhood/al Qaeda do ANYTHING domestically, deal with it domestically.
Our government tried to depose Assad (why?) and in doing so provided arms to the rebels, some of which were ISIS. This blows up in our face and now we bomb ISIS in Syria, thereby helping Assad who we are trying to depose. ISIS will fight back against US airstrikes with US equipment given to them to fight Assad. Air strikes won't work and troops will be sent. For the next ten years we will be fighting Assad and ISIS, then implementing a new government composed of other rebels who will be worse than either Assad or ISIS. Another quagmire.
Our government has caused much damage. Rather than create more damage trying to fix the previous damage, the best strategy is to take our losses and pull out. When you find yourself in a very deep hole, the best strategy is to STOP DIGGING!
S.Az.Vet: You need to
S.Az.Vet: You need to realize that Obama has brought Millions of these animals into your Country and you need to help us get them out of here. Remember those Pilots who bring our Dead back home? Well, it seems that Obama has extorted them to the extent of loosing their Military Careers unless they bring 30,000 Syrian Moslems back to the US of A. All of this at the same time he was sneaking Children across the boarder. He and his friends have been Busy Trucking these Syrians all over the country. Thousands of them were sent to Islamberg, Hancock, N. Y. How many went to your State. All behind your back and under the table.
Don't disagree. A HUGE
Don't disagree. A HUGE problem has been created. All I'm saying is that we need to concentrate on dealing with the create3d mess domestically, including and especially border security and returning/deporting illegals. This is no small task. But we also have to STOP CREATING NEW PROBLEMS and exacerbating old ones by meddling in the affairs of other countries.
We have defeated Iraq on two
We have defeated Iraq on two occasions. When George H. W. pulled out before finishing the job. Then again after 9/11, 2001 then Obama pulled our troops out and left no security forces behind. Now we have to go back. This is madness.
This President has no clue as to what to do. He went on an apology tour after he was first elected and blamed the U.S.A. for the worlds ills. How did this work out? Every time he makes a move he tells our enemies what we are going to do. If this guy had been President during WW11 we certainly would have been defeated.
Just wait until this guy is out of office and hope and pray we get a President who can lead the U.S.A. back to it's rightful place.
And are the Iraqi people any
And are the Iraqi people any better off than before the first invasion? There are a lot of Iraqi people who would respond with a resounding "NO!"
Time to stop trying to fix what we perceive as a problem. (Especially when there are big oil bucks involved.)
Right on Checker! We kicked
Right on Checker! We kicked Saddam in '91 only to see our government allow Saddam to still be a dictator in Iraq.In 2001 George W. went in to do what his father, George H.W. wouldn't finish or the politicians pressured him to stop the war. We captured Saddam and he was executed by his own people!The timing was "ripe" to straighten out Iraq and Afghanistan! Once again, Congress and POTUS Barrack Hussein Obama told the world when and where we would leave Iraq and Afghanistan! Nice going "A-holes". This time POTUS wants to put on a show of force in Iraq and Syria! As a military veteran, you don't give away your hand in battle, you attack, attack, and attack some more till you have turned this unforsaken piece of real estate into a "Giant Magnifying Glass". We still have the best equipped men and women in the military, let the Generals, Admirals do the job that they were trained to perform. Furthermore, keep the Left Wing Zealots and Right Wing Zealots out of the decision making process during war! When a decision is made to go to war you go into battle to "Win" the war, not allowing the waring parties to come to a "Cease Fire" unless all of our objectives have been fulfilled!
Why did that dumb ass in
Why did that dumb ass in Washington lay out a "strategy" like a fighter telegraphing his punches. maybe he should call thm up and say " hey get in your holes we're coming to get you." STUPID move.
We must "END" ISIL and end it
We must "END" ISIL and end it now, airstrikes are not working. These other weak country must standup and put on their big boy pants, and defend their statehood. How many children and their family must die? The bible states, if I recall the might ARMYs will stand and defeat the evil. Why are we afraid to? Do unto others as others do unto you. Do to ISIL, what they’re doing to incent people, and you will see these “THUG” run like the low life they are. It’s time for all worlds’ leaders with their ARMYS to gather together and end these MUNDERING thugs. STOP the (BS) and let’s get the job done.
WASHINGTON please wake up
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