Agreed. Best way to stay out of it is to 1) get out of Iraq, Afghanistan, the gulf region in general. 2) Stop all aid to ISIS to which we HAVE provided, intended or not! No aid to the Middle East. No negotiations with the Middle East. We have plenty of oil so there is nor reason to even do business in the region. Just leave them the hell alone to do that which that have been able to do without us for the last thousand years.
Submitted by So. AZ Vet (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 5:57pm
If no Americans are there, none will die or be wounded and America won't be on the verge of bankruptcy. Who gives a rats ass. Having 800 bases in over 300 countries makes no sense. No wonder America is going broke while a few get rich. Let Israel fight their own battles with THEIR OWN MONEY. America first!
Submitted by Milt (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 7:13pm
Milt...please 300 countries? Get serious, there aren't 300 countries...in this solar system. If you can't get the basics right, why should anyone pay attention to your rant? Oh, I get it, you are anti-Semitic.
Submitted by Cheetah (not verified) : Apr 23, 2015 12:20am
As a military family of 4 generations, We say those ragheads are not worth our boys lives. They have been killing one another for thousands of years and they are not about to stop !!!!!
Submitted by karl.dickerson : Apr 16, 2015 10:26pm
I agree that we need to stay out of it. There is no military solution short of all out invasion and more americans dying for people who don't place any value on life. They are just filled with hate for anyone who does not agree with their twisted view of the Muslin religion.
Submitted by Pat O'Connor (not verified) : Apr 19, 2015 10:07pm
Activate contuous air strikes on their supply lines,day and
night.catch them on the roads in open country where air strikes
are most effective. Once the enter the city's they are hard to
root out.
Submitted by Robert Edelson (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 4:28pm
We now are experiencing the awful consequences of Bush/Cheney using lies and deceit to attack Iraq without provocation. Yeah, Saddam was a bad guy but bad guys are needed to rule the Middle East. At least before Bush and Cheney attacked Iraq, Iraq was against Iran and acted as a moderating influence in the Middle East. Now that Bush and Cheney have destroyed Iraq and sectarian conflict exists between Sunni, Shiite, and Kurds, there is a great possibility the country may split appart. All this can be tied to Bush and Cheney. There was no WMD, no 9-11 involvement, no mobile chemical weapon labs, no nuke programs, no yellow cake purchased, no aluminum centrafuge tubes, and the mission was not accomplished to the tuen of over 4,000 US troops killed and over 30,000 seriously wounded along with over 100,000 Iraqi deaths.
Submitted by Bob Philbrook (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 5:43pm
Bob,
There were WMD's. The liberal media chose to ignore it. Read DOD article"Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria". And Hussain threatened to use them on us. They needed to be invaded. We just should have done a better job. It didn't go to crap until the current administration fouled it up. He pulls the troops out of Iraq where they were doing some good, sends them to Afghanistan to be murdered by the very people we were supposed to be training, now he sends more troops back into Iraq, where it is more volatile than ever. All against military advisors. What would you think of a president who was threatened and did nothing? We were threatened and there was no proof that the WMD's in Iraq were gone. In fact, there was intel that they still had them.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 7:07pm
Yes, and there was no Democratic Congress that voted to go to war along with your favorite Hillary Clinton. You hate Bush and Cheney so much you really don't know half of what your talking about.
Unless we are willing to go in and completely wipe out ISIS, then we should stay out. We have lost too many fine men and women in fighting wars that we are not commented to stick with it until the end.
Submitted by Morris Williams (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 6:17pm
Read a book titled "The Mouse that roared" about a tiny country declaring war on the US with the intention of losing to gain US rebuilding aid. It did not work in Iraq and will not work anywhere in the Middle East as long as religious fanatics with weapons can control the cowardly leaders of countries who command disloyal militaries. The US should stay out of this mess until some kind of order is restored by the countries involved. Innocent people will die, and the world will be outraged, but very few offer help. I am tired of seeing film of flag draped caskets at Dover AFB while politicians praise the bravery of some of our best who served to protect the policies of some of our worst. Is oil that important? Sorry for this rant, but I just had to do it.
Submitted by USAF Steve (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 6:57pm
I recall when I was in high school we were engaged in fighting two powerful countries , each of which had a military numbering in the millions, each had a a Navy, particularly the Japanese had aircraft carriers, and powerful battleships; each had a large Air Force, and each possessed a powerful strong industrial capability. What does ISIS have? Do they have a Navy? Do they have an Air Force? Do they have an industrial base in the areas they occupy? and estimates of their armed forces are maybe 20,000 to at most 30,000 soldiers. Are they a threat to us? They are a threat to our NATO partner Turkey which does nothing. The weapons ISIS military has are mostly American weapons. ISIS is such a reactionary group of extremists that I don't believe will last very long. The more we react against them by bombing and supplying military equipment to groups we now favor, the more we help them recruit. Our good friends the Saudi's have supplied ISIS with a lot of funds and backing. Maybe we could ask them not to do this, if we had enough nerve. ISIS needs the U.S. to get recruits and we need ISIS to get a bigger military budget. As I said ISIS is nothing compared to what we faced in WWII, I don't see why we are so worried about them. Turkey isn't.
Submitted by Bob Charron (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 8:49pm
Our country is in hard times because of all the stupid wars we've been in. It's time to cut off foreign aid, close many embassies around the world that are bleeding off the borrowed money the country will never be able to pay back. Then concentrate on improving our degraded world status by electing a real leader who truly respects and loves this country, and getting rid of some of the dead weight in congress.
Submitted by Rick Bennison (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 8:51pm
I concur with all the comments urging the US to just stay out of it. Our intervention just keeps adding fuel to the fire. I suggest all the arm chair generals take a hard look at the casualties vs this never ending political war. As far as those wanting the nuclear option, you have the IQ of a turnip. And shame on the Legion for not including a "bow out" choice in the poll. We need to bring back the draft, mandatory male and female, then watch how fast the war mongers are silenced.
Submitted by tom c (not verified) : Apr 16, 2015 10:21pm
If "we" are human beings, I don't know how anyone can think we can "Nuke them all!" or "Blast them all off the planet!" and not injure and kill innocent people and destroy everything in it's wake...homes and cities, etc. Do you really believe in doing such a thing -- even to strangers and innocent men, women and children and their families? If so, not one of you should blink an eye when it happens here at home, no matter if it is by another American, or individuals/groups from another country. I do not believe that we should sacrifice anymore lives for same-old-same-old as we have in the past; I've seen my uncles and my cousins suffer from what they endured in wars of the past. However, to destroy all around the ones who are inflicting injury, is to destroy many innocent people. If that's what you or "we" are all about... then we are really no different than the ones referred to by some here as "ragheads". There is evil everywhere, I hope we are not classified as being a part of that simply because we are angry or revengeful or have no civilized brains left. I do not have an answer... I just wish we could prevent so many senseless killings of our own, and so many senseless killings across the globe. That's what my relatives who fought and served and suffered have said --- they didn't do all that suffering (even after out of the service) so we could act like rambo; that's not what they believed "America" was all about, and sure as heck not the reason they gave so much and so dearly. Think about it.
Submitted by Steven Wright (not verified) : Apr 21, 2015 9:10pm
No Americans need to be involved, regardless of how backwards hillbilly these ISIS folks are. We are responsible for the mess we created with Bush's/Cheney's unnecessary and immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq, but we need to break the dinner plate sometime...
Submitted by Jeff Skjelver (not verified) : Apr 22, 2015 2:24am
We need to pull all assets out of the middle east. Just walk away and allow the terrorists to fund projects here in the states. After a month or two of suicide bombings the general public will be begging for more protection and the "police state". Then I'll hopefully make more money as a contractor at the end of the day and won't have to leave the country to make 80k tax free.
Submitted by USN.Miller (not verified) : Apr 22, 2015 2:43am
I agree with most of the posts here, in that the U.S. should--as previously stated--"bow out." As a nation we have lost too many men and women already, and the Middle East is still a hot bed of violence. At this point, it does not appear that the U.S. intervention has made any difference. It is time to shore-up the homeland defenses, and let them figure out how to settle their differences. They have been provided the training and the weapons to accomplish the task. It is time to cut the cord.
A reinstatement of the draft may come necessary in the near future. However, if current levels remain consistent--in spite of cutbacks--then the focus should be turned to defending our borders. Lastly, for those that enjoy the rights granted to them by birth but willingly refuse to serve the great nation that provides them those rights, then it time to silence your voice. Otherwise, as Jack Nicholson from "A Few Good Men" (1992), said, "I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."
Submitted by Dana K (not verified) : Jun 11, 2015 5:17pm
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Stay out of it. We should not
Stay out of it. We should not send in any resources to a fight that we are not willing to win.
Let them fight each other..
Let them fight each other...and leave us alone.
Agreed. Best way to stay out
Agreed. Best way to stay out of it is to 1) get out of Iraq, Afghanistan, the gulf region in general. 2) Stop all aid to ISIS to which we HAVE provided, intended or not! No aid to the Middle East. No negotiations with the Middle East. We have plenty of oil so there is nor reason to even do business in the region. Just leave them the hell alone to do that which that have been able to do without us for the last thousand years.
If no Americans are there,
If no Americans are there, none will die or be wounded and America won't be on the verge of bankruptcy. Who gives a rats ass. Having 800 bases in over 300 countries makes no sense. No wonder America is going broke while a few get rich. Let Israel fight their own battles with THEIR OWN MONEY. America first!
Milt...please 300 countries?
Milt...please 300 countries? Get serious, there aren't 300 countries...in this solar system. If you can't get the basics right, why should anyone pay attention to your rant? Oh, I get it, you are anti-Semitic.
As a military family of 4
As a military family of 4 generations, We say those ragheads are not worth our boys lives. They have been killing one another for thousands of years and they are not about to stop !!!!!
I agree that we need to stay
I agree that we need to stay out of it. There is no military solution short of all out invasion and more americans dying for people who don't place any value on life. They are just filled with hate for anyone who does not agree with their twisted view of the Muslin religion.
Nuke them all and when they
Nuke them all and when they're all gone there won't be anyone to fight with.
Activate contuous air strikes
Activate contuous air strikes on their supply lines,day and
night.catch them on the roads in open country where air strikes
are most effective. Once the enter the city's they are hard to
root out.
I agree air strikes over and
I agree air strikes over and over not just some token strike so the President can say we did it
And who would inhabit the
And who would inhabit the land after they are nuked? How about you, sir
ditto d66cmorris
ditto d66cmorris
Get out of the middle east
Get out of the middle east and open up the oil & gas spigets in the US.
Get more aggressive using special teams to elimanate/destroy/kill terrorists who attack the US!
ditto d66cmorris
ditto d66cmorris
We now are experiencing the
We now are experiencing the awful consequences of Bush/Cheney using lies and deceit to attack Iraq without provocation. Yeah, Saddam was a bad guy but bad guys are needed to rule the Middle East. At least before Bush and Cheney attacked Iraq, Iraq was against Iran and acted as a moderating influence in the Middle East. Now that Bush and Cheney have destroyed Iraq and sectarian conflict exists between Sunni, Shiite, and Kurds, there is a great possibility the country may split appart. All this can be tied to Bush and Cheney. There was no WMD, no 9-11 involvement, no mobile chemical weapon labs, no nuke programs, no yellow cake purchased, no aluminum centrafuge tubes, and the mission was not accomplished to the tuen of over 4,000 US troops killed and over 30,000 seriously wounded along with over 100,000 Iraqi deaths.
Bob,
Bob,
There were WMD's. The liberal media chose to ignore it. Read DOD article"Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria". And Hussain threatened to use them on us. They needed to be invaded. We just should have done a better job. It didn't go to crap until the current administration fouled it up. He pulls the troops out of Iraq where they were doing some good, sends them to Afghanistan to be murdered by the very people we were supposed to be training, now he sends more troops back into Iraq, where it is more volatile than ever. All against military advisors. What would you think of a president who was threatened and did nothing? We were threatened and there was no proof that the WMD's in Iraq were gone. In fact, there was intel that they still had them.
Yes, and there was no
Yes, and there was no Democratic Congress that voted to go to war along with your favorite Hillary Clinton. You hate Bush and Cheney so much you really don't know half of what your talking about.
Unless we are willing to go
Unless we are willing to go in and completely wipe out ISIS, then we should stay out. We have lost too many fine men and women in fighting wars that we are not commented to stick with it until the end.
send Mr Bush and Mr Chaney
send Mr Bush and Mr Chaney they have personnel interest
Read a book titled "The Mouse
Read a book titled "The Mouse that roared" about a tiny country declaring war on the US with the intention of losing to gain US rebuilding aid. It did not work in Iraq and will not work anywhere in the Middle East as long as religious fanatics with weapons can control the cowardly leaders of countries who command disloyal militaries. The US should stay out of this mess until some kind of order is restored by the countries involved. Innocent people will die, and the world will be outraged, but very few offer help. I am tired of seeing film of flag draped caskets at Dover AFB while politicians praise the bravery of some of our best who served to protect the policies of some of our worst. Is oil that important? Sorry for this rant, but I just had to do it.
Get our citizens out of there
Get our citizens out of there and spend the money repairing our own country!
I recall when I was in high
I recall when I was in high school we were engaged in fighting two powerful countries , each of which had a military numbering in the millions, each had a a Navy, particularly the Japanese had aircraft carriers, and powerful battleships; each had a large Air Force, and each possessed a powerful strong industrial capability. What does ISIS have? Do they have a Navy? Do they have an Air Force? Do they have an industrial base in the areas they occupy? and estimates of their armed forces are maybe 20,000 to at most 30,000 soldiers. Are they a threat to us? They are a threat to our NATO partner Turkey which does nothing. The weapons ISIS military has are mostly American weapons. ISIS is such a reactionary group of extremists that I don't believe will last very long. The more we react against them by bombing and supplying military equipment to groups we now favor, the more we help them recruit. Our good friends the Saudi's have supplied ISIS with a lot of funds and backing. Maybe we could ask them not to do this, if we had enough nerve. ISIS needs the U.S. to get recruits and we need ISIS to get a bigger military budget. As I said ISIS is nothing compared to what we faced in WWII, I don't see why we are so worried about them. Turkey isn't.
Our country is in hard times
Our country is in hard times because of all the stupid wars we've been in. It's time to cut off foreign aid, close many embassies around the world that are bleeding off the borrowed money the country will never be able to pay back. Then concentrate on improving our degraded world status by electing a real leader who truly respects and loves this country, and getting rid of some of the dead weight in congress.
Get the hell out of Dodge and
Get the hell out of Dodge and let them fight their own fucking war.We should not sacrifice one more American soldier for Cheney and his war hawks.
Stay the heck out.
Stay the heck out.
I concur with all the
I concur with all the comments urging the US to just stay out of it. Our intervention just keeps adding fuel to the fire. I suggest all the arm chair generals take a hard look at the casualties vs this never ending political war. As far as those wanting the nuclear option, you have the IQ of a turnip. And shame on the Legion for not including a "bow out" choice in the poll. We need to bring back the draft, mandatory male and female, then watch how fast the war mongers are silenced.
agreed.
agreed.
I agreed with Tom C comment.
I agreed with Tom C comment.
Nuke them off of the planet
Nuke them off of the planet
Let our air forces go & bomb
Let our air forces go & bomb the daylights out of them & blast them off the face of the earth!
Long live Gen. Lemay!
Long live Gen. Lemay!
Let them kill each other,
Let them kill each other, after who ever is left over will also be our enemy!
Go after the money. Cut off
Go after the money. Cut off all oil revenue.
If "we" are human beings, I
If "we" are human beings, I don't know how anyone can think we can "Nuke them all!" or "Blast them all off the planet!" and not injure and kill innocent people and destroy everything in it's wake...homes and cities, etc. Do you really believe in doing such a thing -- even to strangers and innocent men, women and children and their families? If so, not one of you should blink an eye when it happens here at home, no matter if it is by another American, or individuals/groups from another country. I do not believe that we should sacrifice anymore lives for same-old-same-old as we have in the past; I've seen my uncles and my cousins suffer from what they endured in wars of the past. However, to destroy all around the ones who are inflicting injury, is to destroy many innocent people. If that's what you or "we" are all about... then we are really no different than the ones referred to by some here as "ragheads". There is evil everywhere, I hope we are not classified as being a part of that simply because we are angry or revengeful or have no civilized brains left. I do not have an answer... I just wish we could prevent so many senseless killings of our own, and so many senseless killings across the globe. That's what my relatives who fought and served and suffered have said --- they didn't do all that suffering (even after out of the service) so we could act like rambo; that's not what they believed "America" was all about, and sure as heck not the reason they gave so much and so dearly. Think about it.
No Americans need to be
No Americans need to be involved, regardless of how backwards hillbilly these ISIS folks are. We are responsible for the mess we created with Bush's/Cheney's unnecessary and immoral invasion and occupation of Iraq, but we need to break the dinner plate sometime...
We need to pull all assets
We need to pull all assets out of the middle east. Just walk away and allow the terrorists to fund projects here in the states. After a month or two of suicide bombings the general public will be begging for more protection and the "police state". Then I'll hopefully make more money as a contractor at the end of the day and won't have to leave the country to make 80k tax free.
I agree with most of the
I agree with most of the posts here, in that the U.S. should--as previously stated--"bow out." As a nation we have lost too many men and women already, and the Middle East is still a hot bed of violence. At this point, it does not appear that the U.S. intervention has made any difference. It is time to shore-up the homeland defenses, and let them figure out how to settle their differences. They have been provided the training and the weapons to accomplish the task. It is time to cut the cord.
A reinstatement of the draft may come necessary in the near future. However, if current levels remain consistent--in spite of cutbacks--then the focus should be turned to defending our borders. Lastly, for those that enjoy the rights granted to them by birth but willingly refuse to serve the great nation that provides them those rights, then it time to silence your voice. Otherwise, as Jack Nicholson from "A Few Good Men" (1992), said, "I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post."