Jan 14, 2021
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I believe there is a danger that the response, as already indicated by massive use of National Guard and other agencies, will be used by the Democrat Party to intimidate anyone even tempted to peacefully demonstrate in the future. Even those who peacefully demonstrated may be subjected to harassment. The response to this terrible attack may cause more long term damage to our First Amendment and our rights than the original riot.
This is not the country I enlisted into the US Marine Corps for after attending Boys State while in high school. We (our Congress) has lost the respect of the working man and woman. As well as the young men and women who enlist and sacrifice everything so we can enjoy our freedoms. What do you tell your grandkids? Tell me. Both parties acting like irresponsible adults. Totally wrong for a nation we are so proud of (and have been so proud to have served for)
I agree. If you tell lies repeatedly over and over,some will believe they are true. Mob rule is not The United States Of America that I served. Restore our values!
My fellow vet, I could not disagree more. The incitement which was fueled by lies that preceded the election by the President and his minions caused this mess. Your comments about Democrats lead me to think that no one you ever served with was anything but a conservative. The American Legion is comprised of VETERANS who are Republican, Democrat and Independent. We all served side by side. We had each other’s back. We swore an oath to the same Constitution.
By the way, the Guard has been called out by the current administration, not the Democrats.
Please point out one lie you heard. I have heard a lot of lies about me coming from liberals/democrats such as, I am a traitor, a white supremacist, similar to Al Qaeda, a Nazi, a racist, a part of the KKK,
a seditionist, and misogynist. Wow, I thought I was simply a patriot.
Obama's administration set the precedent in creating these divides! Placing un-American interests as his priority. Expanding the reach of the DOJ by abusing local law enforcement. Making it almost a crime to disagree by insinuating racism where there was none!
THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION !! That is correct NO INSURRECTION, only a Media attempt to create one. A hand-full of people breaking into the Capitol Building DOES NOT MAKE A INSURRECTION !! You will find that many of the DAMAGE CREATING Individuals were involved in other Riots within the US, they need to be held ACCOUNTABLE. Who Funds the Rioters, who points them in the direction they go, Finally who funds the one who points the direction?? The People who were at the Trump rally were NOT armed as Pelosi has stated, Trump did NOT ask the people who were attending his speech to attack the Capital as the Media has indicated , Big Tech (social media) has removed "FREE SPEECH" if your are President Trump or support the President. I have seen the 1st amendment of our Constitution undermined by Main-Stream Media who state Opinion as Fact, watch the next step will be the 2nd Amendment and with those two gone we ALL will be Totally Controlled. We should Continue to make sure that only the Votes of our Citizens be counted & that Other Foreign Influence be halted. Good Luck to us ALL !!
It saddens me to read some of these comments. No matter the amount of evidence available Trump supporters choose to continue living in their alternative universe. Keep watching as ever more evidence becomes available to prosecutors. Trump supporters need put on their big boy pants and face reality.
The Trump supporters who gathered to voice their objections to the election being stolen are being lied about by the democrats and liberal media. The rioters, as we have found out, were BLM, Antifa plus ordinary democrats bent on destruction and voicing their hatred for the USA.
As everyone knows every Trump gathering in the past have been peaceful except when the democrats send out their people to cause trouble.
Stop spreading more lies, it's already been verified that BLM and Antifa were not involved in this attempted Coup. Just like Al-Qaeda and ISSI, radicalizes Muslim Terrorist, Trump, Fox News and right wing social media has radicalized our citizens to attack our Capitol Bldgs. For people who claim to Love America they sure hate half the people who live here.
I too concur!
HOW DID YOU VERIFY YOUR INFORMATION about BLM & Antifa & Trump Followers?? Just curious because the Main-Stream Media only projects OPINION not Facts. They tell people WHAT to Think, rather than think for themselves. The Damage to the Capitol was underway as Trump supporters were going to the Capitol Building (Follow the Time Line----Not the Media). From video clips from Pelosi's Mask she says that Trump Followers were Armed but they were not. 4 or 5 weapons were found in a crowd of Thousands, that is NOT an Armed Insurrection as she stated. We all need to step back, think, look, listen, talk to others.
You might want to check the facts. One individual has already been arrested that is BLM. More than likely there will be more. However, this does not excuse anyone that caused damage to the capitol. MSM and others are reporting 6 individuals died due to the capitol breach. Not sure this is accurate. A vet was shot and killed, a capitol police officer was hit in the head and died later from his injuries. Now is when it gets a little shaky. 1 died of a heart attack, 1 died of a stroke, 1 died of a medical emergency and 1 committed suicide days later. So who is telling the lies?
Don’t know where you ‘found out’ about BLM and Antifa but your information is FALSE. It was supporters of the President.
How about if it comes straight from a member/activist (of both) then?
Would that convince you of who was behind this?
Probably not . Take a look anyway.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkSiWfqy1YM&feature=youtu.be
Hmm. Nothing there. Must be a worldwide conspiracy led by XI, Putin and the Pope!
Not all were Trump supporters. This is documented.https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/01/14/utah-activists-who-was-us/
You are as Full of shit as a constipated elephant.
Your command of the language is impressive. Like engaging in a battle of with with an unarmed combatant.
Trump and his insane supporters created this RIOT and insurrection! tRump will get his and be in jail soon as will the individuals who were responsible for the attempted COUP! Don't blame BLM! Most of the cowards who rioted last week are racist morons! Those responsible will go where they belong! Prison!
One can only hope and pray! AMEN!
BLM does that stand for Burn,,,Loot,,,,Murder??? Trump & his insane supporters broke windows in the Capitol,,,, BLM stole TV's & Nikes in DC as seen on Main Stream Media. YOU ARE RIGHT IN THAT ""THOSE RESPONSIBLE" should be held accountable. YOU do not support the President & that's ok. YOU support BLM & thats ok. What is NOT ok is that Individuals who claim to be associated with either Organization are Rioters or Thieves but do Not Belong to either Organization. Past Trump Rallys have Not lead to Violence.
Yes and certainly TRUMP.
This is just the beginning of the complete moral degradation of our Country.
Two observations that were even more troubling then the entry into the Capital complex in my thinking:
1. The apparent lack of professional preparedness in "crowd control"
2. The fact that there was not a single person, Representative or Senator that showed any control or leadership to stand up and simply address this assembled mass. I guess they would have been shouted down, but then I guess we'll never know now, will we? What I witnessed was cowardice and surrender....our "leaders" went into hiding showing me what I wish I never wanted to see.
Let me see if I understand your premise. Those unarmed congressional leaders should have stepped up and addressed the thousands of Trump loonies who were there to kill them? Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, where was Raphael Cruze and Josh Hawley?
When it developed that there wasn't a shred of evidence nor a credible witness to support Trump's wailing "I wuz robbed," not one political leader came forward to shut him up. Some, in fact, chose to spend their prestige in support of his demonstrable lies. Trump's story about being able to shoot somebody on 5th Avenue reveals a consciousness on his part of the potential consequences of his continuing to wail (even lies). He aroused his "subjects" without a call to arms because he was/is aware of their attachment to him and not to reality. The danger we face now, in addition to all those that assaulted us before Trump, is the appearance (home-grown or shipped in from abroad) of personalities who will woo these "trumpites" with their propaganda. They have seen how DJT accomplished it.
It exposed the republican party for what they are; pusillanimous jellyfish. Almost none of the elected people represent me, with the exception of the President, and they hate his supporters. God Bless the USA and those who stand by their oath.
Why wasn't the National Guard called up in Seattle, Milwaukee, Chicago and the list goes on Atlanta, etc., etc.
Maybe because they are all run by Democrats.
There was a mission...Burn, steal, murder, whatever it takes to make President Trump look bad.
They must win no matter what the cost.
No matter what the damage.
Go to the six "Swing States" and look at what they did to voting.
Win at any cost, that is their motto.
They even went so far as to infiltrate the Trump Rally in Washington.
Now the rest of us, I mean the one's of us that aren't in Washington, DC will suffer.
Democrats and Republicans and undecided are all in for the big "Smash-down"
Get used to it, we are all Peons now.
Facebook and Twitter and Amazon and Google have already started the squeeze.
I'm a Veteran, Old, Korean War, Combat Wounded and what I see is that we need some new young Veterans to become our elected leaders. Men and women that stood tall and took the Oath and stood by it.
We all learned how to take orders and how to give orders, think clearly, look to the future.
We need you now.
God Bless America
"We the People" are being ignored. While both sides of the aisle bicker like 2 year olds, the people who elected them, the people who pay their ridiculously high salaries are losing rights at a staggering pace. Turning a deaf ear on 75,000,000 voters who feel betrayed and cheated want an investigation. The corporate terrorism displayed by big tech needs to be stopped and free speech restored. Allegations of the Bidens pay to play schemes need to be investigated. This country is a sad and embarrassing mess right now. That should be the take-away from the DC riots.
What rights are we ‘losing at a staggering pace’? The election results have been very carefully scrutinized. We are still waiting on Rudy’s massive ‘evidence of fraud’. Haven’t seen the ‘Kraken’ yet either. The courts, even judges who are Trump appointees, have found no evidence.
The business has the right to regulate people who use their service. Free speech comes with responsibility. Planning or inciting the disruption of the constitutional exercise of the House and Senate is not free speech. It is insurrection.
The Biden’s have been investigated by the current administration without ANY finding of a crime.
I agree that we are a mess. We have survived in the past and will again.
Ah, are you sure the Judges were President Trump appointees? List there names if you are sure.
Trump’s picks on the Supreme Court to name 3.
Not one judge has ruled there is no evidence, they are ruled on procedural.
You are correct, this country is a sad and embarrassing mess. You call it "turning a deaf ear" whereas I call it being a sore loser. Trump lost an election because more people voted for someone else. To not take accountability for the loss, to defy local and sate certified results, to cry foul as over 50 Court cases failed, is the take away. To try to overthrow the voices that out-voted them by physically storming a federal building, causing fear & intimidation and causing five deaths, and most importantly delaying official government business, is the exact take away. Your priorities need re-examined.
I'm pro-America and pro-Trump. I believe this election was stolen from all of us and it will take a long time to get the US back to greatness. I"m 75 and doubt I'll be around long enough to see that happen and that breaks my heart. The pro-abortion, anti-gun, big tax and spend dems will soon destroy all we hold dear. I pray for a miracle to save the USA.
Jim, USA, Artillelry, 1963-64, Ft. Sill, OK.
Been hearing that (commies/socialists) fear mongering for most of my 72+ years now. That, along with they are coming to take my guns/ammo. Still waiting for that to happen.
While the attack on the Capital is abhorrent, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Politics has been getting ugly for decades, but took a turn for the worse when Harry Reid forced through the ACA on a party-line vote, using raw, ugly political power, and against the wishes of half the country. Then he changed the rules for approving federal judges, opening up the door for Mitch McConnel to do the same for SCOTUS. The right-wing has been mostly peaceful over the years, while the left-wing has become more and more violent. Compare the Occupy Wall Street to the TEA Party. Compare ANTIFA and BLM "peaceful" protests to anything. Now having endured almost a year of violence in our largest cities, that the Democrats have yet to condemn, it was only a matter of time that the right-wing exploded.
The extreme right-wing is pretty much disavowed by rank and file Republicans, but the extreme left-wing is the rank and file Democrats. This will not end until the Democrat leadership puts an end to their own radical movement and violence, and the Republican leadership sits down with the Democrats and comes up with a way to diffuse the powder keg that violence created.
In the meantime, our Republic is on shaky grounds, more dangerous than anything since the Civil War. The nation will not make it to 300 years if something doesn't give. I'm just glad I'll be dead when the nation implodes in a violence that is unimaginable.
How about some proof. 140 reps voted to usurp the votes of 81+ million people, AFTER Trump insurrectionists stormed and trashed the Capitol. Claiming that the Republicans are not represented by this group of traitors while claiming that ALL Democrats are extreme left wing is just unsupported by fact or evidence. As I said earlier, your words are trashing your brother and sister veterans, many of whom are Democrats and Independents as well as Republicans.
pghar1948 you are right on!
I so disagree with the American Legion posting the opinion and using the word insurrection Here is a definition of the word insurrection: REVOLT and INSURRECTION imply an armed uprising that quickly fails or succeeds.
Now, I do know that SOME people were mislead and stormed the Capitol Building. And they were wrong in doing that. But calling it an insurrection is raising the bar on what really occurred.
Who led that small, compared to the total number of people at the rally, into the Capitol Building? What were the motives of the leaders that led them there?
There are many more questions to be answered, but the American legion calling it an Insurrection makes me sick and want to leave the organization. Shame on you American Legion. Shame!
Evidence! The arrests/statements from these jack wagons along with video and testimony from police on scene has revealed that we were much closer to an unspeakable horror than was originally realized. The American Legion is NOT a Republican, Democrat or Independent organization. We are a VETERANS organization comprised of veterans, not political party zealots. If you want to belong to an organization that completely supports your beliefs, attend GOP meetings!
The MSM, especially left-wing MSM has been calling this an insurrection. That is totally incorrect, misleading, and ultimately it does nothing more than silence ANYONE who speaks dissent against the Democrat mantra.
For the American Legion to join this fakespeak in calling it an insurrection does nothing more than show that American Legion has also turned left and is now supporting a political party/ideology, instead of its stated mandate of supporting veterans and America.
Your comment supports the belief that if the Legion does not share/promote your viewpoint, it ceases to support veterans. If you want to have a right only view, start your own organization. I am a Vietnam vet who does not believe the American Legion has any right/place endorsing any political belief. When that happens, we lose any legitimacy and the right to claim to represent all veterans.
George W Bush ran three national elections, a Republican primary and two presidential general elections. Each opponent was a man who served in Viet Nam, John McCain then Al Gore in 2000, and John Kerry in 2004. Yet in each election the VFW endorsed Bush. That was blatantly political on the part of the leaders of VFW. Lets hope no service oriented organization ever again endorses AGAINST those who served in combat.
Frankly, I am ashamed to share membership in an organization that would allow a moron like you to hold a membership. You are obviously anti-Republic, and a "Trump Basher". That is fine, but you should quit taking the word of the so-called mainstream media. There is significant evidence of voter fraud and election fraud, but the mainstream media has simply refused to report that information. You can have your own truth, but your are not entitled to your own facts. People like you, and it appears there are many based on comments here, are what I like to call "Mediots". Formerly intelligent people who let the media think for them. You may, as far as I am concerned, take a long walk off a short pier.
texboyer - Because of your testimony, I decided to renew my Legion membership today. I am proud to be a member of an organization with honest and patriotic members such as yourself. Thanks for standing tall while so many cower and submit.
How about showing all of us this evidence of massive fraud. Rudy, Ellis, Madame Kraken and the rest have been promising us evidence tomorrow, in a couple of days or weeks ever since the election. When the time comes for presentation before a court of law, the evidence vanishes and the witnesses suddenly realize they could be jailed for lying, they suddenly dematerialize. FACTS, my friend, not wishes. If you do not base your FACTS on media, do voices give you all this information? As you say, you are not entitled to your own facts. To call a fellow vet an moron and an idiot and suggest a suicidal action ( long walk..) is simply disgusting. It is people like you who are the main reason this organization has failed to attract new members.
I am 72 years old. Have been a Republican my entire adult life. Trump is the reason for this he called for the rally then he told them to march on the capital. He has been dividing the country for the last four years. The republican party allowed him to get away with this. I will never vote Republican again.
If the Legion does not come out and condemn the actions of this president I will drop my membership.
I agree . I just do not understand where his supporters get their information. I believe what I am seeing through live coverage of what is going on in our country. Think!
Amen! Video from ALL outlets shows the same truth!
Most everyone who watches the main stream media will have the opinion the President Trump is responsible for what is wrong in America. Only those who watch true news, (that does not mean Fox only), there are many avenues to get true news, will come away with a completely different perspective. For example, the previous riots by BLM and Antifa were all either instigated by democrats or at the very least empowered by them. When did President Trump or his followers ever burn down buildings, occupy several blocks of a major city, call for the defunding of the police, etc. Not to mention how many times have the democrats used incendiary language to stir up trouble. Remember Maxine Waters saying, if you see them (Trump cabinet and supporters) in the streets tell them they are not welcome here, get in their face and push back. Remember the comedian who showed a picture of herself with the severed head of President Trump. Or Don Lemon using fiery language against the President and his supporters. You've not heard that kind of hate coming from conservatives, Christians and other Trump supporters. No, its not the right that hates this country and want to see it destroyed, but the left. AOC, the squad, Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosia, Rep Schiff, Rep Nadler, Rep Swalwell, and a host of others want to fundementally change this country. Socialism is their goal. President Trump was the one who stood in the way. He is a hero, not a villian.
BLM/Antifa did not attempt to overthrow the United States! Violence done in their name is wrong and people have been arrested for committing that violence. If you believe that hate has not been promulgated by ‘Christians’ conservatives or Trump supporters, you have not watched Trump’s rallies (on Fox, OAN, etc). Those rallies and their attendees are filled with hate.
By the way, you are condemning your fellow veterans when you rant about those who do not share your views. Those of you who post this type of comment make me glad I didn’t have to count on you to have my back. RVN Oct68-Jun70.
The Tantrum at the White House accomplished absolutely NOTHING!
If this is what you call an insurrection then you don't know what you're talking about. The only reason it is being taken so seriously is because of the fact that so many of the "elite Left" congress men and women were almost caught up in the demonstration. All summer during the riots around the country they were far enough away from the destruction from all of their "peaceful protestors" to feel safe when businesses were trashed and burned, innocent people were beaten and robbed and cities were turned into "war zones".
You call this an insurrection? A boy Scout troop would have done better.
I believe it could have been a very peaceful event had the Speaker of the had House acted accordingly to her responsibilities for the safety of the Capitol.
I believe that Roger Stone should be tried for his role in the attack and the so-called "Special Relationship" with Israel should be reviewed. Installing Trump as president-for-life while he had a 90% approval rating in Israel and a 40% approval rating here, the Israeli flags on the Q-Anon car, the blowing of ram's horns during the attack (I believe it's called a "shofar"), the inability to keep to our international commitments during the Trump term and now the Biden term are just too much to ignore, inter alia.
If charged and found guilty, I would like to see Mr. Stone and his accomplices receive the same punishment as Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg, and certainly not less than Mr. Jonathan Pollard.