The Federal Hiring Gauntlet

Ron Conley approached VA representatives about an employment fair scheduled in Pittsburgh in November and asked if they would be taking applications for VA jobs at the event. The answer was a perplexing “no.”

“They told me that would be an injustice to veterans because they don’t have their completed applications with them,” says Conley, a past national commander of The American Legion and manager of the Allegheny County, Pa., Veterans Affairs Office. “They want to sit there and preach how good veterans are for employers, but they don’t want to take applications from veterans.”

This sort of hurdle is common for returning servicemembers, who find great frustration in their searches for government jobs despite a veterans-preference hiring law dating to the mid-1940s, a slew of “hire vets” slogans, and promises from politicians and agency chiefs. A government hiring guide acknowledges the complexity of a federal job search, then blames the problem on fairness rules. The Obama administration has even convened a task force to try to revamp the process.

Meanwhile, more than 21 percent of veterans ages 18 to 24 were unemployed in 2009, outpacing the civilian jobless rate. The official statistics likely underestimate the problem, because a large number of returning servicemembers don’t file for unemployment but stay with family or friends and live off their savings while they search for work.

“I think it’s far worse than folks see,” says Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran Tim Embree, a Legionnaire and a legislative associate with Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA). “And I think with this wave of veterans coming home from Iraq – and potentially from a drawdown in Afghanistan – the problem is going to be worse than anyone can imagine.”

Urban Myth. Veterans are surprised at how difficult it is to land a job once they leave the military. Tom Tarantino and his fellow soldiers talked optimistically about the opportunities that awaited them once they finished their tour with the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment in Iraq in 2005 and 2006. That vaporized when Tarantino left the Army a year later.

“It’s an urban myth that if you have been in the military, it’s really easy to get a job,” says Tarantino, also a Legionnaire and a senior legislative associate for IAVA. “I spent a very painful 10 months looking for work. Usually, I would get to the offer stage, and they would go with someone who had no military experience but had a master’s degree, or had been in the company a long time.”

He realized he was in trouble when a prospective employer, who was looking for a small-factory manager, cautioned him that he would have to oversee 30 people. Tarantino commanded 50 soldiers in combat as a platoon leader and 400 soldiers as acting company commander.

“At first I thought it was funny,” Tarantino says. “Then I realized I was in trouble. I had been sitting there talking to the guy for 20 minutes – going over my résumé, explaining what I had done. It was like teaching French to a guy from Mars.”

The federal government, on the other hand, is compelled by law to offer veterans an easier path to post-military employment. The government has more than 400 occupational specialties, the most of any U.S. employer. And VA is one of the largest veteran employers.

“Veterans prefer to stay with the government,” says Joe Sharpe, director of The American Legion’s Economic Division. “The jobs are often similar to what they had in the military. The benefits are good, the work is stable, and they feel that is a better fit for their family.” After nine years of fighting two wars and serving numerous combat deployments, military families need such stability, Sharpe says.

Returning servicemembers, however, are discouraged by a byzantine federal-application process, and never reach the interview stage. One of the most formidable hurdles, they say, is the website, the mandatory entry point for seeking federal work. The job descriptions posted there are voluminous. A maintenance mechanic’s job at the Pentagon fills six pages. The computerized application itself is long and complex. Veterans also have to fill out other forms and supply additional documentation to claim a veterans-preference status that they suspect is overlooked or ignored.

“It’s needless and bureaucratic,” Tarantino says. “You had to have eight hours to spend filling out an application. And you knew you wouldn’t get a call back.”

Barry Searle, a retired Army colonel and infantry combat veteran with a master’s degree and a decade of experience as a pharmaceutical sales and marketing director, applied for more than 70 positions through between 2007 and 2009. He couldn’t even land an interview for front-desk security guard at an Army maintenance facility, says Searle, director of the Legion’s National Security & Foreign Relations Division.

It’s a jarring welcome home for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans, who have a higher unemployment rate than any other veteran group. “A lot of these men and women come back and see this process and think it’s insane,” says Embree, who served with the Marines in Iraq. “And they are right.”

Once Burned. The federal hiring gauntlet is equally depressing for veterans who left the service before 9/11. Allen Dinning was medically discharged from the Air Force because of a knee problem in 1986. The disabled veteran became a respiratory therapist 14 years ago, after trying his hand at other careers.

“My dream job would be to work at VA with my fellow veterans,” Dinning says. He applied at a Pennsylvania VA hospital four years ago. Although Dinning had a decade of experience, VA passed him over but hired four co-workers from the hospital where he worked. None had served in the military. A VA human-resources recruiter told him there is no veterans preference for health-care workers, he says.

Now 47 and unemployed, Dinning has applied for six different VA positions, including clerical jobs, “just to get my foot in the door. I’m at the point where I’m going to apply for housekeeping.”

Kent Weaver left the Navy in 1995 after a 10-year career, to spend more time with his only child. He put on a suit and tie and visited the state employment office in Columbia, S.C., expecting to get help with his résumé and leads on good jobs. Instead, the employment representative told him he didn’t qualify for any veterans programs, handed him a business card for the West Columbia Police Department and told him to go be a cop. He received a similar brush off from the local VA.

“Being in the Navy didn’t mean anything,” Weaver says. “I was so mad I threw the card away and swore I would never go into a government office looking for help again.”

Weaver delivered windshields for $7 an hour, then worked as a corrections officer, a landscaper and a beverage-truck driver. He shattered his elbow working in a lumberyard four years ago and has been unemployed since. Weaver and his wife moved home to Pennsylvania, where he ventured back into a state employment office in desperation. The veterans representative he’s dealing with now is going out of his way to help, Weaver says. It’s help he could have used 15 years ago.

“I could have gone to work for the federal government when I got out if I hadn’t been lied to by the South Carolina Job Service representative that day,” Weaver says.

Iraq and Afghanistan veterans are running into similar obstacles with USAJobs. “It’s like, ‘I’m over here fighting for you and you send me to a website that’s going to take me forever to figure out?’” Weaver says.

The online application process is only part of the problem. There’s confusion as to whether applicants have to include “Key Skills Assessments” – a written summary of their knowledge, skills and abilities. Weaver, who recently used USAJobs to apply for a job, received a tip from VA that he needed to include that information. “But there was nothing on USAJobs that told me I had to do that.”

It also takes six to eight months for the federal government to hire someone after it receives an application. By that time, “most veterans have taken another job,” Sharpe says.

Veterans who have had mental-health counseling are deterred by security clearance requirements for federal positions in the Department of Defense, says Rachel Natelson, a volunteer legal adviser with the Service Women’s Action Network (SWAN).

“One issue that arises: ‘Have you ever sought mental-health counseling?’” Natelson says. Rule changes in recent years mean servicemembers who have received counseling because of combat trauma don’t have to report it. However, those who received counseling because of sexual harassment or sexual assault do have to report assistance they received.

“A lot of women are so afraid of the consequences of having counseling they don’t seek counseling or they don’t bother applying for federal jobs,” Natelson says. “And this doesn’t apply exclusively to women veterans.”

SWAN supports efforts to persuade DoD to stop requiring veterans to disclose counseling for sexual assault or sexual harassment. Meanwhile, women veterans there are floundering in the job market because VA counseling and treatment that would help them re-integrate is often difficult to obtain or geared for male veterans, Natelson says.

“Unemployment among veterans hasn’t been tied to the economic downturn alone. It’s tied to larger social issues, things like benefits and counseling,” Natelson says. “This will be a bigger and bigger problem as more and more veterans come back.”

All the hurdles don’t make for a better federal work force. A study released in August by the Partnership for Public Service and a private human-resources consulting company found that the federal government is doing a poor job of evaluating job applicants. The study singled out factors such as flawed computer systems that stymie a federal agency’s ability to evaluate applicants. Other factors included poor coordination among hiring managers, human resource offices, agency chiefs and the Office of Personnel Management (OPM).

Wired to Serve. The unemployment issue has captured the attention of Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. “We’ve got over a million who are returning from these wars and whose American dream hasn’t changed a bit,” Mullen said in a speech to the Executive Club in Chicago in August. “They are flat-out wired to contribute, flat-out wired to serve.”

The consequences of not dealing with the needs of returning servicemembers, he added, are already appearing. “We are generating homeless at a rate about four times greater than we did in Vietnam.”

There are signs the federal government is addressing the problem. Last year, President Obama directed his agency chiefs to do a better job of hiring qualified veterans, and many have responded with initiatives to remove some of the hurdles.

Assistant Labor Secretary Ray Jefferson is drawing praise for his efforts to revamp the federal hiring process. OPM, meanwhile, persuaded seven federal agencies to reserve 600 jobs for qualified veteran applicants in advance of a job and hiring fair at The American Legion’s 92nd National Convention in Milwaukee earlier this year.

Job descriptions were distributed to veterans across the country through the Department of Labor, state employment agencies and veterans service organizations such as the Legion two weeks prior to the convention, to give veterans time to apply.

Nearly 170 veterans met with U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials at the convention, says Joe Arata, assistant director for national recruitment at the agency.

“We’ve greatly expanded our reach beyond what you would consider traditional veterans hiring,” Arata says. As a result, 22 percent of new applicants for Border Protection jobs are veterans. And 31 percent of new hires in fiscal 2010 are  veterans.

OPM also sent a trainer to the Legion’s convention workshops to help veterans submit polished applications for federal jobs, and has a task force working to improve Sharpe credits the Obama administration and John Barry, director of OPM, for starting to make these strides.

“They are making good on their promise,” Sharpe says. “I’ve never seen anything like it.”

There’s far more than jobs at stake, Embree adds. “We’re at a crossroads,” he says. “If you get veterans back into the economy, you are going to solve a lot of the problems you are going to see down the road, such as homelessness and suicides. The time for talk is over. This administration and this Congress need to step up and show today’s veterans they have their back.”

Ken Olsen is a frequent contributor to The American Legion Magazine.


  1. I agree with this article. I have only been job hunting a short time but was forewarned that I would run into problems and already I am seeing messages on USAJOBS such as "this job was removed by the hiring manager" or "due to funding the manager decided not to fill the position" over and over and over I see this message among others which is really a smoke screen to avoid hiring veterans. I have a secret clearance, 24 years in the navy and PERFECT service record. I also have an Associates and working on my Bachelor. Still NOTHING.

  2. Myself and a fellow vet were commiserating recently over our inability to obtain Federal employment via the online bureaucracy. One of my experiences was applying for a position that I felt I was qualified for, only to be told months later the manager had removed the position. It's a Good Old Boy network that rewards those who have friends in high places.
    Now I'm unemployed and rapidly drawing down on my life savings as I can't even make ends meet shopping at dollar stores nor get a refinance and debt consolidation. My O-3E retirement check is consumed by child support and mortgage payments...
    And since I was booted by my wife - I live in a decidedly non-Federal county called Shenandoah at our 2nd home...
    What? Me bitter? No way!

  3. Not trying to take away from Veterans,but these things are also happening to civilians.Here are my facts,with NO exageration:34 year old female,100% mobile(Nation-Wide),BA in Psychology,Masters in Criminology,5 years management experience,6 years Law Enforcement experience and 4 years HR experience.Since August 2005,I have applied for 402 federal jobs.I was rated "Qualified" and "refered to the hiring official" for 396 jobs.I have had 3 in person interviews and 1 telephone interview.I currently work for the USDA.Where I took a $16,000 a year pay cut just to get into the federal system.I thought a federal job meant job security. Turns out-not so secure.The bottom line is when you have:a computer that grades resumes/applications, political influence,and managers that want to hire friends,No one who is worthy gets the job.A previous post said it best,"I expect to be hired based upon my credentials,not because I work cheaper".

  4. I am a Viet Nam Era veteran. I served 4 years in the Air Force, 18 months of which was in Okinawa,Japan, during Viet Nam. In addition, I served over 14 years in the Navy (active) Reserves which totals over 18 years of combined service. I have an AAS Degree. I applied countless times with USA/JOB.GOV and never even get an interview. We joke with other Veteran who say," the applications all go into a black hole". But actually,it's not funny.It's pathetic if you ask me. Two years ago I applied for a seasonal Park Ranger with the National Park Service. They told me, even before I'm hired, I have to pay for my own Law Enforcement Acadamy, given by ten colleges throughout the country.
    But told I would never make it at my age of 57. Well, I insisted and took the 13 week course. I proved them wrong and graduated. The average age was 25 years old with Only 3 veterans in the class. After graduation, I applied for a postion as a seasonal Park Ranger and was turned down to a non veteran.

  5. I applied to the northport va medical center in northport, ny and I have tried for years to land a job at this hospital. My vocational councelor sent me back to school to get more experience and the human resource department told me that I was still not qualified for any job at this va. I have even applied to housekeeping and they told me that there was a waiting list. I do not understand how I am not qualified and they have people that have never served in the military and are civilians that do not even have a high school diploma. What is really going on with the system. Maybe I am too smart that is why they will not hire me. This vamc should be investigated for their hiring practices. I notice that it has also have been a racial challenge for me as well. I have also applied to many hospitals all over the community outside of the government and they have not responded I know this economy has it tuff right now. Maybe I have said so much in one sentence.

  6. As a veteran of the Marines who served four years as a Diesel Mechanic, and was ASE certified, I have been told on several occasions my military experience is not relevant to the DIESEL MECHANIC positions I have applied to. While getting resume advice I was told to remove my military experience to get a better response. I finally went back to school but was denied internships and was told I should have chosen a different career choice than the military after high school. Applying for jobs on is a total waste of time. isn’t a bad site, and is actually how I got my current job. Currently Sears is supposedly recruiting veterans, and also helmetstohardhats which is an organization that hooks veterans up with local unions to be trained as apprentices in the chosen construction field is something to check out as well.

  7. Looks like whizzer67 was the fortunate one. As a 50 percent disabled veteran, female, with over 30 years service in the Army, a Master's Degree in Human Resources, and10 years experience in the field as a civilian, I thought that I would be welcomed into the Human Resources Command with open arms, seeing that they have had a 30 percent reduction in the number of employees now working there because of the move. Boy, was I wrong! Not only did I NOT get a response to my resume that was sent several months ago, I was told by an 'insider' that my chances would be improved if I came in at several levels lower than I was posting for, just to 'get into the system'.
    Sorry, I am not taking a $28,000 pay cut, paying for my own move, selling my house at a loss, just to 'get into the system'. I expect to be treated based upon my credentials, not because I work cheaper. I am a professional soldier with a Master's Degree; I guess I am not worth the money. The system is an embarrassment and a joke.

  8. Whizzer67 - I'm happy that you had such good luck in your search for gainful employment, but I can tell you you're in the minority, at least with the Army. Most times it comes down to knowing somebody and they want to hire you despite what qualifications other applicants may have.

    That's not universal, though. I can tell you that I work for the Fayetteville, NC, VA Hospital, and 48 percent of our current employees are Veterans - against a VA-wide average around 22 percent. I've also had several civilian positions working for the Air Force, so I know how to get hired in the federal system, just not the Army system.

  9. I have to agree with US Army Vet about the Army's hiring policies. Living right outside Fort Bragg, and with more than 20 years of military and civilian experience in my chosen field, a 10-point Veterans preference and being a current federal employee, I thought I would have no problem getting a job with the Army. WRONG!

    I just checked my account on the Army's Resumix system and saw that I've applied for 91 positions since 2005 that were located both here and around the world, been referred for a majority of them, but never once called for an interview, let alone offered a position.

    I was warned when I retired from the Air Force that it was tough getting on with the Army (and I actually attended Army-run schools for my career field) because by the time you see a job announcement on USAJobs, they already know who they're going to hire. I hoped it wasn't true, but after 91 tries over five years, you have to think something's going on.

  10. What! I cannot believe this. Such a well written article, without a mention of the largest most anti-veteran organization in our nation.The Percentage of Veterans employed by the Postal Service has been on the decline over the last several years.In October 2009,the Postal Service offered an early retirement program. 20,876 employees took advantage of this program.8,301 or approximately fourty percent where Veteran.Many Veterans took advantage of this program because they were targeted for harassment prior to retirement.But that another issue no one wants to adress.The Postal Service states that it is currently under a hiring freeze, yet they are sending recuiters to select colleges.I believe that if the Postal Service would spend as much effort seeking out under employed Veterans in their ranks for these position, they would be able to fill these positions without increasing the overall work force.I hope the lack of mention of the because an article on the P S is forth comming

  11. I think Ken Olsen was right on with this article. I am a army vet with 22 years of civilian administrative, human resource and procument experience and 8 years of personnel work in the US Army as an NCO.

    I have applied for 29 positions with the US Army Since January 2009 and have been rejected 24 times, 1 referral with no hire and 4 canceled positions. They take kids coming out of college because these positions are GS5-7 grades with little of no experience needed.

    Sorry whizzer67, not everyone is as fortunate as you. After you stop slapping yourself high 5's come down to earth because not everyone is getting the same treatment.

  12. I disagree with this whole column. A COL with a Masters can't get a security job? Really? I retired in last month as an E-8. No degree and a background in aviation maintenance. I've had 6 offers from posting my resume online and turned down 2 additional government offers. All but one offered $70k/yr and one contractor position was $105k/yr. I eventually took a Dept of the Army job at GS12 level. Sounds to me like these folks have some skeletons in the closet or should take the Army's offer of free resume writing classes.

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